Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included.a]

2002-11-15 Thread Max Bowsher
Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruce> Bootstrap-Bash could use a frozen version of configure. > This means freezing at least one copy of Bash. Doable. What about someone (probably a user of a machine that actually needs it) writing a shell function inliner? ltmain.sh could be postpr

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included.a]

2002-11-14 Thread Bruce Korb
Akim Demaille wrote: > I don't agree. Autoconf does not use shell functions, it just says it > will some day. If you want to use shell functions, don't do it > pretending Autoconf did first :) > > Also, Autoconf will try to find a shell that supports functions. Someone made the assertion that t

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included.a]

2002-11-14 Thread Charles Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let them install BASH and get out of our way. Both of them. Bash uses configure. And so does ash :-( which was my first thought for working around this problem. On the other hand, is it so terrible to ask that those who wish to continue using systems with 20-ye

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included.a]

2002-11-14 Thread Tom Lord
> Let them install BASH and get out of our way. As someone else pointed out, bash uses autoconf. Also, while its good to talk about bringing up GNU environments on top of proprietary ones, the long term view is to also think about bringing them up on raw iron. So, pick a small set of pr

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included.a]

2002-11-14 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Robert" == Robert Boehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robert> All, Hey, that's a relief, now we don't have to deal with this Robert> issue anymore. I would be in favor of a) leaving the shell Robert> functions in place, and b) making use of them more. I don't agree. Autoconf does not use

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included.a]

2002-11-14 Thread akim
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 07:53:42AM -0800, Bruce Korb wrote: > Akim Demaille wrote: > > I don't agree. Autoconf does not use shell functions, it just says it > > will some day. If you want to use shell functions, don't do it > > pretending Autoconf did first :) > > > > Also, Autoconf will try to

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included.a]

2002-11-14 Thread Bruce Korb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Bash uses configure. Bootstrap-Bash could use a frozen version of configure. There certainly won't be any additions to the list of systems with 15+ year old shells, so a bootstrap-bash for hobbyists should work just fine. __

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included.a]

2002-11-07 Thread Robert Boehne
All, Hey, that's a relief, now we don't have to deal with this issue anymore. I would be in favor of a) leaving the shell functions in place, and b) making use of them more. Thanks, Robert Bruce Korb wrote: > > Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote: > > > Bruce> ... 20 year old shells are [not] too o

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included.a]

2002-11-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Bruce Korb wrote: > Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote: > > > Bruce> ... 20 year old shells are [not] too old for continued > > Bruce> support. Ick. How completely disgusting. > > > > Cheer up and read the Autoconf 2.54c announcement entirely :) > > You're right. I only read the f

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included.a]

2002-11-07 Thread Bruce Korb
Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote: > Bruce> ... 20 year old shells are [not] too old for continued > Bruce> support. Ick. How completely disgusting. > > Cheer up and read the Autoconf 2.54c announcement entirely :) You're right. I only read the first 100 lines or so. :-) This is a decade overdue.

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included.a]

2002-11-07 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
>>> "Bruce" == Bruce Korb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Bruce> neither Autoconf nor Libtool want to be the first to say Bruce> that 20 year old shells are too old for continued Bruce> support. Ick. How completely disgusting. Cheer up and read the Autoconf 2.54c announcement entirely :)