Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-21 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 06/21/2012 10:51 PM, Michael Stahl wrote: On 21/06/12 21:32, bfo wrote: Disagree. It is a page for bug reporters. I really like the gerrit migration and would like to see it integrated with Bugzilla. Also always precommit hooks can be implemented if developers tend to forget to put a bug numb

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-21 Thread David Ostrovsky
On 21.06.2012 22:51, Michael Stahl wrote: we already have quite a bit of that, comments are added to bugzilla when a commit mentions a bug, and with gerrit we'll soon handle reviews better. gerrit bugzilla integration still has to be implemented. feature set of such integration can be seen here:

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-21 Thread Michael Stahl
On 21/06/12 21:32, bfo wrote: > > Petr Mladek wrote >> >>> I'd change the workflow a little bit by putting the obvious things at the >>> top: >>> - feature requests aka wishlist >> I do not have any strong opinion for this. I think that it is is good to >> be able to discuss features, so "enhancem

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-21 Thread bfo
Petr Mladek wrote > >> I'd change the workflow a little bit by putting the obvious things at the >> top: >> - feature requests aka wishlist > I do not have any strong opinion for this. I think that it is is good to > be able to discuss features, so "enhancement" bugs in bugzilla might be > usable

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Mladek
Hi bfo, this are interesting questions. I put back QA mailing list into CC because there people there are interested. bfo píše v Út 19. 06. 2012 v 11:24 -0700: > This is a very nice workflow, but I have some questions: > - how you define "Bug prevent users from making professional quality work?"

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-20 Thread Petr Mladek
Joel Madero píše v St 20. 06. 2012 v 08:08 -0700: > Thanks for the advice. I thought I had included the qa list, my > mistake. As for the length, I agree and I almost didn't include it but > that was an email in response to mine so I felt a bit obligated to > respond despite the length. If only I

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-20 Thread Joel Madero
Thanks for the advice. I thought I had included the qa list, my mistake. As for the length, I agree and I almost didn't include it but that was an email in response to mine so I felt a bit obligated to respond despite the length. I had another side question, the response to the thread was made her

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-20 Thread Petr Mladek
Hi Joel, Joel Madero píše v Út 19. 06. 2012 v 13:36 -0700: > I moved this to a new thread because the subject here didn't really > accurately portray the direction of the conversation The mail includes many good questions and proposals that might move us forward. I'll try to answer it later this

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-19 Thread Joel Madero
I moved this to a new thread because the subject here didn't really accurately portray the direction of the conversation but I wanted to say I have uploaded the latest flowchard: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/06/Prioritizing_Bugs_Flowchart.jpg I wasn't sure how or if I needed a wi

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-19 Thread bfo
Joel Madero-2 wrote > > Version 2, changed orientation and tried to take comments into > account. Let me know what you all think. > Hi. This is a very nice workflow, but I have some questions: - how you define "Bug prevent users from making professional quality work?" Interoperability issues a

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Joel Madero
I agree with the save comment, I'll change that right now. Also realized I didn't put a note in for regressions so I added to the bottom notes: **Regressions** Special attention should be paid to regressions. In most cases a regression calls for an increase in priority but in some cases it will no

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Petr Mladek
Joel Madero píše v Po 18. 06. 2012 v 09:32 -0700: > Version 2, changed orientation and tried to take comments into > account. Let me know what you all think. It is much better readable. I finally got a better picture :-) Well, I think that it still need some thinking. You set "inability to safe"

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Petr Mladek
Joel Madero píše v Po 18. 06. 2012 v 07:04 -0700: > I'll modify the orientation today or tomorrow and try to see where > regression should fit. I think that it has to go in Priority and not in > Severity. Makes sense. > As for how devs use it, I agree completely that right now it's > almost u

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Petr Mladek
Rainer Bielefeld píše v Po 18. 06. 2012 v 13:21 +0200: > Joel Madero schrieb: > > I brainstormed a bit today and I came up with this flowchart. > > > Hi Joel, > > great to see that all in a chart, your conclusions and definitions seem > plausible. > > But the chart also shows the limitations o

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Joel Madero
I'll modify the orientation today or tomorrow and try to see where regression should fit. I think that it has to go in Priority and not in Severity. As for how devs use it, I agree completely that right now it's almost useless but maybe if it becomes more uniform and it actually provides some i

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Joel Madero schrieb: I brainstormed a bit today and I came up with this flowchart. Hi Joel, great to see that all in a chart, your conclusions and definitions seem plausible. But the chart also shows the limitations of that concept: It's really sophisticated, and no developer will sit at

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Petr Mladek
Joel Madero píše v Pá 15. 06. 2012 v 23:09 -0700: > I brainstormed a bit today and I came up with this flowchart. Looking > for input. I read through email threads and see that prioritizing bugs > has been an interesting discussion but as of now looks to be pretty > unsettled. I'm going to make a s

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Joel, On 2012-06-15 at 23:09 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > I brainstormed a bit today and I came up with this flowchart. Looking > for input. I read through email threads and see that prioritizing bugs > has been an interesting discussion but as of now looks to be pretty > unsettled. I'm going t

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-13 Thread Joel Madero
Sure thing. As soon as I do what I'm considering "Phase 1" (just changing from UNCONFIRMED to NEEDINFO or NOTOURBUG) I'll be moving to the second phase which is to prioritize. I'll bookmark those links, appreciate the heads up. It would be nice if we could get 2-3 people to just pound through them

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Mladek
Hi Joel, your plans are great. On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 23:49 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > With thousands of unknown bugs I think that this will help us divvy up > the work and prioritize a bit. After I do this phase I'll try to get > consensus on how to prioritize. Obviously security bugs and resour

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread julien2412
Joel Madero-2 wrote > > ... > If someone asked "is this reproducible in the latest release", but didn't > say anything else as to if they themselves had tried to reproduce it. I > would mark as NEEDINFO. I think that this is a bad policy as we can't > expect users to constantly come back when a n

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Joel Madero
One more thing to add to this. Last night when I did some (I think I did about 25-50 so it wasn't too many) I was doing the following: If someone asked "is this reproducible in the latest release", but didn't say anything else as to if they themselves had tried to reproduce it. I would mark as NEE

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Joel, On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 11:49:52PM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > Sure thing, I'll include it here and add a link as soon as I post over at > freedesktop bugs > [...] > I hope I'm not overstepping, just trying to help as much as possible as it > seems like there is a bit of a back log. If th

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Joel, On 2012-06-07 at 23:49 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > 1. If there has been a request for information and there has been no > response for 30+ days I'm putting NEEDINFO > > 2. If two or more people have said that they do not have the bug I'm > doing the following if there hasn't been action

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Joel, On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 23:49 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > Sure thing, I'll include it here and add a link as soon as I post over > at freedesktop bugs This is prolly best on the libreoffice-qa list (I just CC'd it) - but it's interesting on the hackers list too. Your cleanup sounds

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-07 Thread Joel Madero
Sure thing, I'll include it here and add a link as soon as I post over at freedesktop bugs 1. If there has been a request for information and there has been no response for 30+ days I'm putting NEEDINFO 2. If two or more people have said that they do not have the bug I'm doing the following if th

Re: Cleaning bug list

2012-06-07 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Joel Madero schrieb: Just a heads up to everyone. I'm doing a serious cleaning of bug reports. Changing a lot to NEEDINFO, RESOLVED, etc...We have way too many bugs listed as unknown that haven't been touched in months and have been confirmed to not be an issue or needs updated without updates fr