Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-18 Thread Wit
Tijnema wrote: > Ok, I see this is all going about nothing.. > if someone says: > >> Please do not top post >> > > lines... if you really want to save bandwidth, remove the default sig > from this mailing list... > Umm... the primary thing about top-posting is not bandwidth. It's about

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-18 Thread Tijnema
Ok, I see this is all going about nothing.. if someone says: > Please do not top post it does have reference to the above mistake right? the top posting is done there right? So is it really irrelevant information? And you guys are shouting about 50 lines c'mon, it's not 1000s lines... if you r

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-17 Thread rblythe
Eric Stout wrote: > 3: But do not include the entire original! > > 4: To prevent hideously long posts with a minimal account of new text, it > is good Usenet practice to remove the non-relevant parts and optionally > summarize the relevant parts of the original post, with regard to one's > reply.

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-17 Thread Eric Stout
> Get a good mail client which doesn't automatically show all bullshit > above, like Gmail. Adjust your attitude. For personal, legal, and corporate reasons, the only email access I have that's 24/7 is to run pine on a workstation currently located 4300 miles north west of me. Don't try to chang

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-17 Thread Eric Stout
> >If this is a mailing list: DO NOT TOP POST! why?: > >http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html > > If you're advocating not top-posting due to [n]etiquette, how can you not > advocate trimming replies, when it's IMHO just as important for good > [n]etiquette? Not to mention that what he linked to

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-17 Thread Roger Merchberger
Rumor has it that Tijnema may have mentioned these words: >On 8/17/07, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Please trim the quoted material to what is relevant. > > > > -- > > Randy > > > >Get a good mail client which doesn't automatically show all bullshit >above, like Gmail. So you'

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-17 Thread Tijnema
On 8/17/07, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > rblythe wrote these words on 08/16/07 16:56 CST: > > > [snip 53 lines of stuff having nothing to do with the reply] > > > > Please do not top post > > Please trim the quoted material to what is relevant. > > -- > Randy > Get a good mail clien

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
rblythe wrote these words on 08/16/07 16:56 CST: > [snip 53 lines of stuff having nothing to do with the reply] > > Please do not top post Please trim the quoted material to what is relevant. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.27] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable r

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-16 Thread Tijnema
On 8/16/07, rblythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clyde Forrester wrote: > > I am proceeding on the principle that sudo is in place for a security > > reason. If I am doing an end run around all this sudoing then I'm doing > > an end run around security. Sure, sometimes there's a reason to do that,

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-16 Thread rblythe
Clyde Forrester wrote: > I am proceeding on the principle that sudo is in place for a security > reason. If I am doing an end run around all this sudoing then I'm doing > an end run around security. Sure, sometimes there's a reason to do that, > but I'm not that good yet. Thanks for the tip for

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-16 Thread Alan Lord
Shane Shields wrote: > On Thursday 16 August 2007 9:54:14 pm Alan Lord wrote: >> Once that is done, you can just type "su" and you will become "root". > > Short and sweet. > > sudo -i > > :) > Cool :-) I never knew that! (Guess I should have RTFMP (Read the Flipping Man Page)) Thanks. -- ht

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-16 Thread Shane Shields
On Thursday 16 August 2007 9:54:14 pm Alan Lord wrote: > Once that is done, you can just type "su" and you will become "root". Short and sweet. sudo -i :) -- Shane Shields Registered LFS Compiler: 7582 To drink the WINE of success you must first seek the sayings of source Anyone sending unwa

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-16 Thread Clyde Forrester
I am proceeding on the principle that sudo is in place for a security reason. If I am doing an end run around all this sudoing then I'm doing an end run around security. Sure, sometimes there's a reason to do that, but I'm not that good yet. Thanks for the tip for when I am that good. For now I

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-16 Thread Clyde Forrester
Yes. The 'cd' was the critical part which I overlooked. The notice was even marked "Important". Go figure. :-) Maybe I was subconsciously interpreting the ! icon as "not". As in NOT Important. :-) Clyde Forrester Trent Shea wrote: > On Thursday 16 August 2007 12:05, Clyde Forrester wrote: >

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-16 Thread Alan Lord
Clyde Forrester wrote: > Now the pickiness. In part 2.3 I'm guessing I should be root when making > partitions. Maybe I missed it. It doesn't seem to say. Of course I can > never really be root. I have to sudo wherever it is appropriate. That's not actually true... Open a terminal and type: s

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-16 Thread Trent Shea
On Thursday 16 August 2007 12:05, Clyde Forrester wrote: > mkdir -v ../binutils-build > cd ../binutils-build > ../binutils-2.16.1/configure yadda yadda yadda There is an important message in the Chapter 5 Introduction: Before issuing the build instructions for a package, the package should be un

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-16 Thread Clyde Forrester
Aw, beauty! That worked well! Except that sudo has a snit fit over "export". (I should explain that while I'm saying that, that I have a big dippy grin on my face. The reason being that every time I trip over something like that, I'm learning yet another thing which will put me on the path to be

Re: root or user, getting picky

2007-08-15 Thread Alec Wright
Until you get to the bit where it tells you to set up the lfs user, sudo everything. Btw if you want a root shell, sudo su On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 16:56 -0500, Clyde Forrester wrote: > I'm on my third attempt at LFS, so I'm going to get picky as I read through. > > First some history. My first attem

root or user, getting picky

2007-08-15 Thread Clyde Forrester
I'm on my third attempt at LFS, so I'm going to get picky as I read through. First some history. My first attempt at LFS was from a 64 bit Ubuntu. Wasn't possible. Second attempt was CLFS and I bogged down. Now I have 32 bit Kubuntu (on a 64 bit AMD). Now the pickiness. In part 2.3 I'm guessing