Re: Poll about package management

2008-03-03 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
Here are my responses. I use a homegrown pkg manager. It used to be based on the pkg-user + fakeroot approach, but the latest one I am using has the pkg-user stuff removed since I found it was adding a lot of complexity without much benefit. My current PM uses a fakeroot approach by building and fa

Re: Poll about package management

2008-03-03 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sukucorp Sukucorp wrote: > > Arghh! Please stop mis-using the term "fakeroot". The real Fakeroot is a > Debian package designed to simulate a superuser environment. What you are > refer

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:55 AM, Alan Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This even applies to Ubuntu 64bit which I have tried. I removed it > within a few hours when I couldn't load Acrobat reader, various media > codecs and several other apps... > I have been using Ubuntu Gutsy x86_64 since its

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've almost completed an LFS Development build using DESTDIR (or whatever > else if the package doesn't support DESTDIR) style installation. Though > I might hit some bumps in the last few remaining packages, I'm writ

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On undefined, Dave Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree w/ pretty much everything said below and would also like to > see a DESTDIR-branch. I'd add the uninstall commands should also be > broken out into pre- and post- stages. An example would be calling > pwunconv and grpunconv if you

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On undefined, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But what is being described here is much more than just a DESTDIR > installation method. To me, this sounds like pure PM, and probably > more than LFS should take on. > It is not more than the DESTDIR method. If packages are installed

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Bryan Kadzban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But any kind of DESTDIR type > setup would require it, if the package's "make install" is run as a > non-root user. fakeroot is not an absolute requirement for install-root style PM. I use the following wrappers to avoi

Re: r8518 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 prologue

2008-04-11 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:48 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > + [bdubbs] - Updated host requirments to check for > + symbolic links from sh, awk, and yacc. Was there a bug report for this or did anyone run into any problems? I don't know about bison/yacc, but I did not have a

Re: r8518 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 prologue

2008-04-11 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was responding to some earlier comments about sh->dash causing problmes. I > added the part about yacc and awk because I know thy are sometimes used, but > I > don't know for sure if they are essential for LFS. It i

Re: r8518 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 prologue

2008-04-11 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yacc (bison) - Definitely needed since we patch the bash parse.y file > in Ch. 5 and yacc will need to be rerun. Could add bison to Ch. 5 > before bash, but IMO it's easier for the host to just install bison. I don't

Re: r8518 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 prologue

2008-04-11 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Randy echoed my thoughts in a much better manner. We should not check > > for something if the result of the check does not make any difference > > in the build. > > Agreed, and I don't think we're doing that right

Re: r8518 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 prologue

2008-04-12 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not sure why. The changes I added only say to change some (three) > symbolic > links or add them if they don't already exist. These changes to links can't > really hurt and it establishes a better base configurat

Re: r8518 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 prologue

2008-04-12 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We had a discussion about this in: > > http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/1962 > > and although that got resolved, I was trying to head off potential future > problems. That was fixed upstream. Most of the u