Hello,
Some newbies get caught by our advertisement (which might be true for older
versions of LFS, but is untested as of LFS-6.3):
> It is not difficult to build an LFS system of less than 100 megabytes (MB),
> which is substantially smaller than the majority of existing installations.
> Does t
- Original Message -
From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LFS Developers Mailinglist"
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 9:00 AM
Subject: LFS size and hardware requirements
> Hello,
>
> Some newbies get caught by our advertisement (which might be true for
older
> versions
> I agree for "586-class computers with only 16 MB" would give bad result if
> any.
> I have build IPCop in the past on a 586-class laptop with 160 MB memory in
> approximatly three days.
>
well, an i586 with 128 mb ram and a total hd space of 3 GB took 3 days
just for pass1 of chapter 5 with a
J. Greenlees wrote:
> 8 hour build time? unless using the build scripts I don't think it's
> possible without brand spanking new hardware with massive amounts of ram.
ums.usu.ru (before it died in November, 2007 due to voltage spike): Pentium IV
2.4 GHz (without hyperthreading), Intel S845WD1-E s
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> J. Greenlees wrote:
>
>> 8 hour build time? unless using the build scripts I don't think it's
>> possible without brand spanking new hardware with massive amounts of ram.
>>
>
> ums.usu.ru (before it died in November, 2007 due to voltage spike): Pentium
> IV
J. Greenlees wrote:
> and this is done manually typing in, or copy and paste of the build
> commands?
> or is it scripted to remove the manual input [ slow point ] requirement?
It is completely scripted, see the LiveCD SVN repository. I can't afford any
uncertainty due to typos for official LiveC
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> J. Greenlees wrote:
>
>> and this is done manually typing in, or copy and paste of the build
>> commands?
>> or is it scripted to remove the manual input [ slow point ] requirement?
>>
>
> It is completely scripted, see the LiveCD SVN repository. I can't affor
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> No, learning must be gradual, the reader must see a trouble-free
> book first and _then_ experiment.
>
Learning is gradual, but is almost never trouble-free. A child learning
to walk stumbles countless times before achieving balance and poise. I
have stumbled qu
> Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
>> No, learning must be gradual, the reader must see a trouble-free
>> book first and _then_ experiment.
>>
> Learning is gradual, but is almost never trouble-free. A child learning
> to walk stumbles countless times before achieving balance and poise. I
> have stumb
Joe wrote:
> If someone can build LFS in 8-12 hours,
> perfectly and in a single session the very first time, it seems to me
> that either they're already experts or very lucky and haven't learned
> much from the experience.
>
> Joe
Sounds just like the first time I built LFS - of course, I fa
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:49 PM, J. Greenlees
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan Nicholson wrote:
>
> > bash - Not needed for actual building, but glibc's ldd and tzselect
> > need either bash or ksh to work. The values will be substituted at
> > configure time. I don't know what happens without
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Sukucorp Sukucorp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Randy echoed my thoughts in a much better manner. We should not check
> > > for something if the result of the check does not make an
Dan Nicholson wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:49 PM, J. Greenlees
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Dan Nicholson wrote:
>>
>> > bash - Not needed for actual building, but glibc's ldd and tzselect
>> > need either bash or ksh to work. The values will be substituted at
>> > configure time.
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 1:49 PM, J. Greenlees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dan Nicholson wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:49 PM, J. Greenlees
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Dan Nicholson wrote:
> >>
> >> > bash - Not needed for actual building, but glibc's ldd and tzselect
>
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Some newbies get caught by our advertisement (which might be true for older
> versions of LFS, but is untested as of LFS-6.3):
>
>> It is not difficult to build an LFS system of less than 100 megabytes (MB),
>> which is substantially smaller than the maj
Dan Nicholson wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Sukucorp Sukucorp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Randy echoed my thoughts in a much better manner. We should not check
>> > > for something if the result of
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure why. The changes I added only say to change some (three)
> symbolic
> links or add them if they don't already exist. These changes to links can't
> really hurt and it establishes a better base configurat
Sukucorp Sukucorp wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm not sure why. The changes I added only say to change some (three)
>> symbolic
>> links or add them if they don't already exist. These changes to links
>> can't
>> really hurt and it est
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> We had a discussion about this in:
>
> http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/1962
>
> and although that got resolved, I was trying to head off potential future
> problems.
That was fixed upstream. Most of the u
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