Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> Hello All,
~snip~
> Merging the projects is a good idea, but I think, for the sake of
> customization and flexibility, it will still be good to break down LFS
> into 'modules' as Alan Lord suggested. It will all still be a part of
> the same whole and the workload combine
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
>> Merging the projects is a good idea, but I think, for the sake of
>> customization and flexibility, it will still be good to break down LFS
>> into 'modules' as Alan Lord suggested.
>
> I'm having a problem understanding this concept. If one wants
Alexander E. Patrakov schrieb:
> Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
>> The main LFS module can be about the final system. Teaching users
>> _concepts_ of the system, locations of key config files, useful shell
>> tricks and tips, information about packages, examples of how to use the
>> packages in a practica
From my novice-perspective, this is a most enjoyable thread to read -
my thanks to everybody who's contributing. It's inspiring a whole host
of idea's (or pipedreams) that are still very incoherent, i'm afraid...
One prospect that i find especially appealing is a 'module' on 'how to
become a d
on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 12:28 Benjamin John wrote:
" there, what I want is how to build my own system
As one of the ones "to be educated", and when I'm learning by
breaking and by doing again, and again, and yet again, what I
fantasize and dream about, from the learning point of view,
on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 7:15 R.Quenett wrote:
" the time to learn everything all at once, especially without an easy
" way of starting over right at the very beginning. Maybe it's not
correction: without going right back to the very beginning
sorry
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On Friday 29 February 2008 03:23:21 Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Please bear with me... this is a long post, although I tried to keep it
> simple and easy to read.
>
> Gerard invited me to share some of my ideas with him privately about our
> recent discussions on lfs-dev. What follows i
Jeremy,
I like your idea, having customised instructions in PHP for everyone's need
is great.
I've been giving this subject a long thought since the first post, and I
would like to make a suggestion, although I don't particularly know if it
will be useful, but here it is:
What I've thought is
Unionfs could be your friend. But I don't know either how this would be
solved with that.
stephan
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On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 04:20:25PM +0200, George Makrydakis wrote:
> I would have some heavy commenting to do on the origin of what you are
> proposing here but in anycase, time for this will come and you know it.
> People
> who know, know. Those who don't probably did not care enough. Discussio
I agree with what I have been reading. It would be a shame if people lost
interest in LFS because there are few sources available for teaching how to
build a complete system. The more widely disseminated this knowledge is, the
better, even if 99% of Linux users don't care.
I have been using L
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> I realized that taking such a variable approach as 'choose your own PM'
> would lead to such issues. The idea I had in mind to solve it would be
> to make the main spec files nothing more than perhaps very simple xml, e.g.:
>
> somepkg
> 1.2.3
> file-for-patching.patch
>
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Alan Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> > Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
>
>
> >> Merging the projects is a good idea, but I think, for the sake of
> >> customization and flexibility, it will still be good to break down LFS
> >> into 'modules' as Al
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 07:46:41AM -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Alan Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ---
> > So perhaps the LFS project becomes some sort of "course" (and I use the
> > term loosely). The "modules" of which, could be something like:
> >
> >
On Friday 29 February 2008 10:01, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> > I realized that taking such a variable approach as 'choose your own PM'
> > would lead to such issues. The idea I had in mind to solve it would be
> > to make the main spec files nothing more than perhaps ve
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:22:24AM -0600, Rich Edelman wrote:
> While not all package managers keep configure and build as separate steps (in
> fact, I'm not aware of any that actually do have them as separate steps),
The package-user method's current scripts do. However, I'm not sure if
that re
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 03:31:28PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I would like to see UTF-8 in LFS.
I thought it was? Or at least, I thought LFS was UTF-8-ready. (I don't
think we want to enforce UTF-8 on everyone, though.)
> I'm not sure I like using XML for building packages. I prefer rea
On Friday 29 February 2008 17:26:43 Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 04:20:25PM +0200, George Makrydakis wrote:
> > I would have some heavy commenting to do on the origin of what you are
> > proposing here but in anycase, time for this will come and you know it.
> > People who know,
Bryan Kadzban wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 03:31:28PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I would like to see UTF-8 in LFS.
>
> I thought it was? Or at least, I thought LFS was UTF-8-ready. (I don't
> think we want to enforce UTF-8 on everyone, though.)
>
>> I'm not sure I like using XML for
On Friday 29 February 2008 11:44, Bryan Kadzban wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:22:24AM -0600, Rich Edelman wrote:
> > While not all package managers keep configure and build as separate steps
> > (in fact, I'm not aware of any that actually do have them as separate
> > steps),
>
> The package-
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 03:31:28PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I would like to see UTF-8 in LFS.
>I thought it was? Or at least, I thought LFS was UTF-8-ready. (I don't
>think we want to enforce UTF-8 on everyone, though.)
Hmm, I need to look. I haven't built a new LFS recently. I just
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 08:45:47PM +0200, George Makrydakis wrote:
> You have some issues, sir. You are doing the same thing to everybody else's
> project you cannot touch. You did the same when you ungraciously backported
> everything from cross-lfs and diy in order to have a 64bit build. To the
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
... Lots of stuff about George's crazy email(s).
Jeremy,
I really don't know what George is on. I didn't plan to respond to his
mail at all. I don't think it deserves any more bandwidth to be frank.
Ignore it.
Let's just move on - or get back - to discussing the way forw
On Friday 29 February 2008 22:26:24 Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 08:45:47PM +0200, George Makrydakis wrote:
> > You have some issues, sir. You are doing the same thing to everybody
> > else's project you cannot touch. You did the same when you ungraciously
> > backported everyth
On Friday 29 February 2008 23:14:19 Alan Lord wrote:
> Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> ... Lots of stuff about George's crazy email(s).
As if you knew what this is all about. You obviously don't.
> Jeremy,
>
> I really don't know what George is on. I didn't plan to respond to his
> mail at all. I don't
George Makrydakis wrote:
>
> This means that there is always the benefit of the doubt. If you want this
> settled, you know where and how to find me. If this is a misunderstanding ,it
> is a long standing one and I propose we resolve this now before everything
> else. It would be of mutual bene
On Saturday 01 March 2008 00:55:04 David Jensen wrote:
> George Makrydakis wrote:
> > This means that there is always the benefit of the doubt. If you want
> > this settled, you know where and how to find me. If this is a
> > misunderstanding ,it is a long standing one and I propose we resolve this
George Makrydakis wrote:
> On Saturday 01 March 2008 00:55:04 David Jensen wrote:
>> If I might suggest: Use Gerard as an arbiter, it is his project.
>>
>
> Glad to hear about this.
>
Don't mention it. At my age, I need reminded, can't say if Gerard does.
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