Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 02/08/06 22:52 CST: > But it is indeed better to say "no" to UTF-8 support now, because of > BLFS issues and because UTF-8 support is a property of the whole system, > not just its base. The blacklist approach ("If a package is not listed > here, it me

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 02/08/06 22:52 CST: > The blacklist approach ("If a package is not listed > here, it means there are no known locale specific issues or problems > with that package" on > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/introduction/locale-issues.html) >

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Randy McMurchy wrote: IMO he isn't blaming BLFS for problems with UTF-8. Alexander has publically stated that after adding UTF-8 to LFS, that maybe it really isn't ready for the main book. Even asking to revert it or put it in an experimental branch. http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/m

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR

2006-02-09 Thread Alan Lord
Alan Lord wrote: Alan, sorry for not getting to this sooner in BLFS, life has once again stepped in the way. :-/ Unfortunately, I don't see it any time in the next couple of weeks unless another editor can grab it. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, when the build completes, would you mind post

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Justin R. Knierim wrote these words on 02/09/06 09:50 CST: > IMO he isn't blaming BLFS for problems with UTF-8. Then you and I read plain English differently. IMO, the following statement directly conflicts with what you say above: "But it is indeed better to say "no" to UTF-8 support now, becau

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Justin Knierim
Randy McMurchy wrote: Justin R. Knierim wrote these words on 02/09/06 09:50 CST: IMO he isn't blaming BLFS for problems with UTF-8. Then you and I read plain English differently. IMO, the following statement directly conflicts with what you say above: Arg, need to re-read emails be

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Justin Knierim wrote: > There > are other problems, such as people not wanting the bloat, english > speakers not seeing the need, etc. Just to clarify: As an English (only) speaker, I really don't want UTF-8 on *my* system. As a BLFS developer, I certainly understand the desire and need for U

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:50:44AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > My only problem with LFS on the issue is that LFS traditionally has not > offered choices. That is, there is only "one true path" through the > book. This makes users who do not need or want UTF-8 proceed on their > own. IMO, this is

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR

2006-02-09 Thread Alan Lord
I know - posting to my own message but... Just d/l the OOo linux-intel-x86 package and it's all in bloody RPMS!!! Aghh Oh well looks like I will be building from source somehow - now where did I put audiolib.h... Al -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR

2006-02-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alan Lord wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Alan, >> I'm just curious where you have the {audio,sound}lib.h files located. >> In my system I have: >> >> $ locate audiolib.h >> /usr/X11R6/include/audio/audiolib.h >> $ locate soundlib.h >> /usr/include/alsa/asoundlib.h >> /usr/include/sys/asoundli

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR

2006-02-09 Thread Richard A Downing
Alan Lord wrote: > I know - posting to my own message but... > > Just d/l the OOo linux-intel-x86 package and it's all in bloody RPMS!!! If you convert the RPMS to tar.gz with rpm2targz then the tar.gz's will unpack to /opt/openoffice.org2.0. http://downloads.linuxfromscratch.org/rpm2targz.t

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Fahrenheit
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:50:44AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: My only problem with LFS on the issue is that LFS traditionally has not offered choices. That is, there is only "one true path" through the book. This makes users who do not need or want UTF-8 proceed on the

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Joel Miller
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: And to further clarify, an LFS machine as it currently is does *not* automatically use UTF-8. The changes to the LFS book are so that the LFS system *can* use UTF-8 properly if a user requires it. IMO, this is I'd like some clarification on one point then. IIRC, I read

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Chris Staub
Joel Miller wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: And to further clarify, an LFS machine as it currently is does *not* automatically use UTF-8. The changes to the LFS book are so that the LFS system *can* use UTF-8 properly if a user requires it. IMO, this is I'd like some clarification on one point

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Chris Staub
Joel Miller wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: And to further clarify, an LFS machine as it currently is does *not* automatically use UTF-8. The changes to the LFS book are so that the LFS system *can* use UTF-8 properly if a user requires it. IMO, this is I'd like some clarification on one point

Re: OOo-2.0.1, Xorg 7.0, Firefox-1.5 and System NSS/NSPR

2006-02-09 Thread Alan Lord
Bruce Dubbs wrote: They come form the nas package. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/cvs/multimedia/nas.html -- Bruce Thanks Bruce, but I thought by adding --without-nas I wouldn't need them? Perhaps they are a dependency anyway... -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listin

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Chris Staub
Chris Staub wrote: Joel Miller wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: And to further clarify, an LFS machine as it currently is does *not* automatically use UTF-8. The changes to the LFS book are so that the LFS system *can* use UTF-8 properly if a user requires it. IMO, this is I'd like some clarif

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Joel Miller wrote: I'd like some clarification on one point then. IIRC, I read in a post by Alexander that the changes to the book made it so that ssh would no longer connect properly to non UTF-8 systems. In order to do that you had to run ssh through screen. This would be a *massive* inconven

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: I tried looking for the error using a recently built LFS LiveCD. I've been using en_US.UTF-8 as a locale with it recently, and ssh both incoming and outgoing has worked fine for me. Logging in is fine. Once you are in, try "su - root". Justin -- http://linuxfromscratc

Re: K3B Dependencies (dvd+rw-tools)

2006-02-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 02/09/06 16:58 CST: > On 2/9/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>1. Not put dvd_rw-tools in BLFS. > > No, I think it should be in there. We agree on this point. I believe DJ offered an opinion on this as well that dvd+_rw-tools should be in the book.

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Justin R. Knierim wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: I tried looking for the error using a recently built LFS LiveCD. I've been using en_US.UTF-8 as a locale with it recently, and ssh both incoming and outgoing has worked fine for me. Logging in is fine. Once you are in, try "su - root". Worke

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Worked fine here... I will note that, seeing that I'm using a german locale, my keys were a bit askew. The 'z' and the 'y' were reversed and the '-' was where the '/' key is. Other than that, it worked fine. Hmm, strange. I wasn't using the German profile when I report

Re: [DIY BUG] bash wants en_US locale

2006-02-09 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Justin R. Knierim wrote: Hmm, strange. I wasn't using the German profile when I reported that problem, it was the normal en_US.UTF-8. Anyways, I'll try it again tonight and see what I can find. Nevermind, I just tried with the 6.2-pre3 LiveCD and I can't reproduce the error either. Sorry