Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:19:13AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Ken Moffat wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 09:26:42AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: I don't share your optimism that upstream will accept this, although I hope I'm wrong. For the moment, 182 is good enough

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:19:13AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 09:26:42AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > >> I don't share your optimism that upstream will accept this, > >> although I hope I'm wrong. For the moment, 182 is good enough. > > I've been watc

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-14 Thread Andrew Benton
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:19:18 +0100 Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've been watching the mailing lists and William Hubbs has been trying > to get a set of patches into systemd for several days. He is being > ignored by upstream AFAICT. They have seemed quite arrogant about it in > the past when they h

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 09:26:42AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: >> I don't share your optimism that upstream will accept this, >> although I hope I'm wrong. For the moment, 182 is good enough. I've been watching the mailing lists and William Hubbs has been trying to get a set of

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 09:26:42AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > I don't share your optimism that upstream will accept this, > although I hope I'm wrong. For the moment, 182 is good enough. > > However, I will have a go at merging the write_{cd,net} rules stuff > from 182 into udev-config so that

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 08:07:56PM -0700, Bryan Kadzban wrote: > > We *could* apply the patch, then autoreconf, then regenerate a new > patch, for LFS (to avoid pkg-config or other weirdness causing issues in > chapter 6's autoreconf run). > Missed this part : Bruce reinstated pkg-config earlie

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 08:07:39AM +0100, Matt Burgess wrote: > On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 20:07 -0700, Bryan Kadzban wrote: > > > We *could* apply the patch, then autoreconf, then regenerate a new > > patch, for LFS (to avoid pkg-config or other weirdness causing issues in > > chapter 6's autoreconf r

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-08 Thread Matt Burgess
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 20:07 -0700, Bryan Kadzban wrote: > We *could* apply the patch, then autoreconf, then regenerate a new > patch, for LFS (to avoid pkg-config or other weirdness causing issues in > chapter 6's autoreconf run). Or we could give it a while (leaving the > book at udev-182) and se

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 04:21:05PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> $ ls -l /lib/udev >>> total 1528 >>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 196379 May 21 15:41 accelerometer >>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91401 May 21 15:41 ata_id >>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138252 May 21 1

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 04:21:05PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> $ ls -l /lib/udev >> total 1528 >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 196379 May 21 15:41 accelerometer >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91401 May 21 15:41 ata_id >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138252 May 21 15:41 cdrom_id >> -rwxr-xr-x 1

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 10:53:55PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: >>> --- >>> >>> Then the script in mountvirtfs already does: >>> >>> # Copy devices that Udev >= 155 doesn't handle to /dev >>> cp -a /lib/udev/devices/* /dev >>> >>>-- Bruce >> I'll need to look at *wh

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 10:53:55PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > > --- > > > > Then the script in mountvirtfs already does: > > > > # Copy devices that Udev >= 155 doesn't handle to /dev > > cp -a /lib/udev/devices/* /dev > > > >-- Bruce > > I'll need to look at *why* that isn't w

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: >> All the udev supporting programs should end up in /lib/udev: >> >> $ ls -l /lib/udev >> total 1528 >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 196379 May 21 15:41 accelerometer >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91401 May 21 15:41 ata_id >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 138252 May 21 15:41 cdrom_id >> -rwxr-x

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 04:21:05PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > This use of /usr/lib makes sense for me, but I haven't yet attended > > to moving the libs to /lib, so accelerometer and cdrom_id will not > > work until /usr has been mounted. > > I didn't know what accelero

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 02:11:23PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > # Start the udev daemon to continually watch for, and act on, > > # uevents > > /lib/udev/udevd --daemon > > > > # crude fix for udev > 182 > > mkdir -p /dev/pts > > That's not ne

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > This use of /usr/lib makes sense for me, but I haven't yet attended > to moving the libs to /lib, so accelerometer and cdrom_id will not > work until /usr has been mounted. I didn't know what accelerometer did. It is for tablets and phones to tell the orientation of the de

Re: [lfs-dev] udev : testing Bryan's systemd-make-systemd-optional.patch

2012-06-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > # Start the udev daemon to continually watch for, and act on, > # uevents > /lib/udev/udevd --daemon > > # crude fix for udev > 182 > mkdir -p /dev/pts That's not necessary. Create at install time: $ ls -lR /lib/udev/devices/ /lib/udev/devices/