Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-21 Thread Bryan Kadzban
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Jeremy Huntwork wrote: >> (Actually it may cause grief with the installed distro's udev >> system, especially if the wrong CONFIG_ compatibility sysfs flags >> get unset...) > > So don't use udev on the host... [/me runs] :-P (You want to try

Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bryan Kadzban wrote: [snip] Thanks for the clarifications, they were very helpful. > Forcing the user to build the kernel before they start may work I would think that doing this would provide optimal build results for glibc. If you do it after the first pass of gcc, but before glibc, then yo

Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Bryan Kadzban
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Bryan Kadzban wrote: >> Ken Moffat wrote: >>> but also I think we should encourage >>> people to build a new kernel first (if they aren't using a Live CD) >>> so that they can be sure it works with their .config, and the

Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Perhaps I'm not understanding your point. Certainly > --enable-kernel=current would cover that very circumstance? --enable-kernel=current breaks downgrades that are inevitable after any RedHat release, and introduces a new variable into the build. That's why I am agains

Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: >> To me, 2.6.9 is ancient history! (4 years old). I think something >> like 2.6.16 (purely because it is still getting long-term support >> updates) is a better minimum, but also I think we should encourage >> people to build a new kernel first (if they

Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Bryan Kadzban
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Ken Moffat wrote: > To me, 2.6.9 is ancient history! (4 years old). I think something > like 2.6.16 (purely because it is still getting long-term support > updates) is a better minimum, but also I think we should encourage > people to build a

Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:24:50PM +0200, Gilles Espinasse wrote: > Selon Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > ... > > LFS dev has on glibc --enable-kernel=2.6.0 > FC9 has set --enable-kernel=2.6.9 > Debian lenny has set --enable-kernel=2.6.18 > Greg has the same 2.6.18 setting on glibc chroot compil

Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Gilles Espinasse
Selon Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ... > > In an *ideal* world, I still think that building the kernel version > used in LFS on the host is the way to go. Doesn't fit every usage, > but it has to be a lot better than attempting to support people > building from some antique version of 2.6. LF

Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:36:14AM -0400, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: >> * "Gcc-3.0.1" can at _least_ become "Gcc-2.95" I don't know if you >> want to mention "egcs-2.91.66" but it works. >> > Possibly, but if you have to build a linux-2.6 kernel on the old > host, you won't be a

Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > That's interesting Jeremy, but as a minimum, I wouldn't want to make the > changes > for LFS 6.4. I don't think you are proposing that but I wanted to make it > explicit. Yes, I wasn't aiming for 6.4. As I said, these changes will be going into the jh branch. The only thi

Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:36:14AM -0400, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > > * "Gcc-3.0.1" can at _least_ become "Gcc-2.95" I don't know if you > want to mention "egcs-2.91.66" but it works. > Possibly, but if you have to build a linux-2.6 kernel on the old host, you won't be able to build a recent v

Re: Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > So after some testing on a Redhat 6.2 system, I can say definitely that > our host pre-reqs are higher than they technically need to be. I'd like > to eventually drop all the below changes into the jh branch, but I just > wanted to give a little status report first, for

Minimum Host Prerequisites

2008-10-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hello, So after some testing on a Redhat 6.2 system, I can say definitely that our host pre-reqs are higher than they technically need to be. I'd like to eventually drop all the below changes into the jh branch, but I just wanted to give a little status report first, for those interested. Firs

Prerequisites

2008-07-28 Thread wwh04660
Hello, Pre-requisites are definitely explained in the appropriate section of the book, and this might be provided in the prerequisites; http://freshmeat.net/projects/rute/ If that isn't working properly than the Wayback machine can help: http://web.archive.org/web/200406010

Prerequisites - Current unstable online book

2006-08-15 Thread Peter Ennis
LFS-6.0, LFS-6.1, or HLFS-0.1+, are the prerequisite for the host system. Other systems may work but are not supported. LFS-6.1.1 ??? LFS-6.2 ??? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/hlfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Please mention prerequisites: bison & flex

2005-07-06 Thread steve crosby
On 7/6/05, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > system requirements in the prologue. Hmm, the first paragraph on > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.1-pre1/chapter01/chapter01.html#ch-scatter-how > states that one must choose the "development" option of your host > distribution.

Re: Please mention prerequisites: bison & flex

2005-07-06 Thread steve crosby
On 7/6/05, Kim McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that there ought to be some kind of documentation of what development > tools are required in order to build LFS. > There already are: from the binutils page Installation depends on: Bash, Bison, Coreutils, Diffutils, Flex, GCC, Gettext, Glib

Re: Please mention prerequisites: bison & flex

2005-07-06 Thread Matthew Burgess
Kim McCall wrote: When I tried building binutils, I ran into the problem of the nonexistence of "yyparse." I had to hunt around on the web a bit, and I finally found somebody who had the same problem and said it was solved by installing bison and flex. I installed these, and everything went fi

Please mention prerequisites: bison & flex

2005-07-06 Thread Kim McCall
Being unable to build LFS6.1 on my FC4 system because of the gcc4 problem, I installed a minimal ubuntu distribution. When I tried building binutils, I ran into the problem of the nonexistence of "yyparse." I had to hunt around on the web a bit, and I finally found somebody who had the same probl