LFS Future Braindump

2008-05-25 Thread Robert Daniels
the current index of the BLFS book. If there is interest, I can try to hack up a quick version of this idea. -- Robert Daniels -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Robert Daniels
T or PackageKit. If LFS moves to package management, I think these kinds of higher level tools would be great additions to BLFS, unless they also end up needing to be integrated into the system from the outset. In any case, this is exactly the kind of information we need for this sort of w

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-20 Thread Robert Daniels
tand the notion of the informed person > clicking the "I know what I'm doing" checkbox, but I think the LSB is > helping to make "Just Works" attainable for mere mortals. > I often forget the (extremely common) case of the average user. Thanks for taking the t

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Robert Daniels
s too dumb and/or lazy to read documentation to get dependency information, and to protect vendors from spurious support requests from said users. If that's at least part of the reasoning, I think I might be beginning to understand. -- Robert Daniels -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/ma

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Robert Daniels
document simply goes to far. I see little need to go much further than the POSIX specification and the FHS. The FHS could do with some revision, but it at least tries to stay reasonable. -- Robert Daniels -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscrat

GnuPG-2.0.8

2008-03-05 Thread Robert Daniels
ksba-1.0.3, and applying patches from debian to libksba, and gnupg, but no luck. Also checked that this error also occurs in gnupg-2.0.7. Anyone else seeing this error? Or know how to fix it? -- Robert Daniels -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfroms

Re: KDE-3.5.9 patch coming

2008-03-03 Thread Robert Daniels
On Monday 03 March 2008 21:38:36 DJ Lucas wrote: > Robert Daniels wrote: > > Oops, wrote all that and forgot to actually attach the patch. > > > > Here it is. > > OK, a question for the KDE guys. The note about sysconfdir on the > kdebase page (I know you didn

Re: Poll about package management

2008-03-03 Thread Robert Daniels
machine > [ ] Interferes with config.site files described in DIY-linux > [ ] Will clobber configuration files wen upgrading package versions > [ ] Doesn't explain how to package software beyond BLFS > [ ] Requires learning another language/syntax besides bash shell > syntax [ ] Exis

Re: Planning an overall direction for LFS

2008-03-02 Thread Robert Daniels
way do we want to abandon our current target audience, or LFS veterans. This would quickly spell death for the project. So, all of a sudden, we have multiple target audiences, at very different levels of experience. It will be a problem trying to come up with a solution that will satisfy all of them, but I think it can be done. -- Robert Daniels -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Planning an overall direction for LFS

2008-03-01 Thread Robert Daniels
post where _I_ would like to see the project go, and hope that my ideas are useful in some form. ;) > Feel free to correct any misconceptions i might have voiced - i'm > fairly thick-skinned. ;) > > taipan -- Robert Daniels -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Planning an overall direction for LFS

2008-03-01 Thread Robert Daniels
Add in games later, or maybe media center functions, or something like that. Probably throw in a module on distribution / livecd's. I just forgot to list it up there. A lot of this internally would be just a reorganization, so editing wouldn't change too much. Anyway, just anothe

Re: Planning an overall direction for LFS

2008-02-28 Thread Robert Daniels
further ideas? > > Sorry for the length, I hope it wasn't too much of a pain to read. > > -- > JH In large part, I agree with what has been said. Another note on the PM, it may be a good idea to only include one PM in the first version of this new model, get things out the door. Then add support for other PMs in later versions. -- Robert Daniels -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Package Management

2008-02-27 Thread Robert Daniels
point, it did constantly print out warnings that my tar version was too new, don't know if this is still true or not. In any case, we have several options to evaluate and see what meets our needs best. -- Robert Daniels -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

man-db config file in /usr/etc

2008-02-25 Thread Robert Daniels
Hello all, Just a heads up that man-db-2.5.1 needs --sysconfdir=/etc to install its config file in the proper place, otherwise it goes into /usr/etc. Robert -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information p

Re: Link to file-4.23.tar.gz in LFS Development SVN-20080219 Incorrect

2008-02-25 Thread Robert Daniels
On Sunday 24 February 2008 12:50:17 am Aaron Matsumoto wrote: > I've been a longtime LFS builder and would like to thank all of you > for your support and great work. > > I was getting ready for a fresh build of the Development LFS (in > preparation for some further work on [independent] OS coding)

Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?

2008-02-25 Thread Robert Daniels
> > It has recently been suggested to me that the LFS LiveCD project be > > killed. The main arguments for this are, essentially: > > > > 1) It is currently unmaintained > > 2) It removes the essential prerequisite of being able to configure > > a Linux system > > 3) It leads to less testing from o

Re: Happy Birthday LFS

2008-02-24 Thread Robert Daniels
Happy birthday to LFS! This is a wonderful project, one of the two most important projects to me (the other being KDE). This is really how I learned linux about 4 years ago. I tried a couple distros for about a month, and saw a lot of potential, but there was always something that seemed wron