Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On 29 July 2010 00:51, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> it's always a good idea to be able to roll back. > > Did you try building the older version of png and reinstalling? > No, the obvious thing to do would be to recompile epiphany against the current version (the update was to fix a

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > it's always a good idea to be able to roll back. Did you try building the older version of png and reinstalling? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On 28 July 2010 18:01, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Because I don't use it and don't see the need for it (for me).  I have > no problems reinstalling a newer package over an older one.  The only > package that gives me pause for that is glibc. > FWIW, my ppc64 system is rather old (a bit over a year now).

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On 28 July 2010 22:52, Yaacov-Yoseph Weiss wrote: > We (at least Jeremy and myself) are referring to package management in > a way that won't affect regular users at all, except for another optional > command in each chapter, similar to the current "make test/check" > commands available today. I

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Yaacov-Yoseph Weiss
Dan wrote: > I hope no one resents my "uninformed" intrusion into this discussion. > This may be long, so I ask forgiveness in advance. Don't worry about either count. Such discussions are often between developers or potential developers, and the views of the "regular users" is forgotten. It is re

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Dan McGhee
On 07/28/2010 10:36 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > >> On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:07 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >>> Section 6.3 discusses PM. It says why we don't have PM in the >>> book. >>> >>> There are six hints on PM. >>> >> These sorts of replies are discouragin

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I guess that goes back to "Your distro, your rules". I haven't felt the > need you have. I prefer a simpler system. Absolutely, which is why it's nice to demonstrate in the book the simplest method of PM, namely DESTDIR. That one extra variabl

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > One thing that makes PM very useful for me is being able > to easily and quickly determine what package owns a particular file. > Troubleshooting and system auditing becomes very easy. I guess that goes back to "Your distro, your rules". I haven't felt the need you have

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Ok, that's your personal choice. But I'm curious, is there any >> particular reason why you are personally opposed to working on a >> project with package management? > > Because I don't use it and don't see the need for it (for me). I have > no

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> I'm not opposed to someone creating an alternative version of LFS >> with package management. If a volunteer needs the resources on the >> LFS site, I'll be glad to set them up. However, I don't want to >> work on such a

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I'm not opposed to someone creating an alternative version of LFS with > package management. If a volunteer needs the resources on the LFS site, > I'll be glad to set them up. However, I don't want to work on such a > project. Ok, that's your

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:07 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Section 6.3 discusses PM. It says why we don't have PM in the >> book. >> >> There are six hints on PM. > > These sorts of replies are discouraging. It says "we've dealt with > this, no point in discussing further". It's

Re: Website

2010-07-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:07 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Section 6.3 discusses PM. It says why we don't have PM in the book. > > There are six hints on PM. These sorts of replies are discouraging. It says "we've dealt with this, no point in discussing further". It's terse and official and unwelcoming.