Re: Chapter 6 building against /tools still?

2008-12-02 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:16:49 -0800, Bryan Kadzban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jeremy Huntwork wrote: >>> Because this was a consensus made by several people back in the early >>> part of 2006, I'd like to open it up for

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Even it it's poor hardware support, does the frequency of occurrence rise to > the > level of needing to be in the LFS book? As several comments in the ticket > suggest, initramfs would be more appropriate for BLFS, but I'm thinking that > even that is too much and an upda

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greg Schafer wrote: > Greg Schafer wrote: > >> In a (native) sysroot scenario, anything and _everything_ can be found >> on the host. > > Here's a Binutils thread about a sysrooted ld which touches upon what I'm > talking about: > > http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2008-08/msg00060.html Intere

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
DJ Lucas wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: >> Jeremy Huntwork wrote: >> >>> Anything else? >>> >> Oh, I also forgot. We could give some thought to using DIY's new build >> method > Some? I thought this was a no brainer. During the big push for 6.3, > Greg handed us many, many tips, and sh

Re: xkeyboard-config and intltool

2008-12-02 Thread DJ Lucas
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Hi, > > I see on the xkeyboard-config page that intltool is listed as an > optional dependency, but if I try building the current instructions as > is without intltool, I get the following configure error: > > checking for intltool >= 0.30... ./configure: line 3519: > in

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:07:25 -0500, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Anything else? > > Ticket #2284 - radical plan would be to just drop udev-config completely, > then any reported issues should be passed

Re: libidn update

2008-12-02 Thread DJ Lucas
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > 2008/12/2 DJ Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: >> >>> Testcase (I think it should even be put into the book): >>> >>> LANG=en_US xterm >>> in that xterm: curl http://räksmörgås.josefsson.org/ >>> >>> >> Thanks for the testcase

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread DJ Lucas
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > >> Anything else? >> > > Oh, I also forgot. We could give some thought to using DIY's new build > method Some? I thought this was a no brainer. During the big push for 6.3, Greg handed us many, many tips, and showed several examples of w

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread DJ Lucas
Matthew Burgess wrote: > On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:07:25 -0500, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Anything else? >> > > Ticket #2284 - radical plan would be to just drop udev-config completely, > then any reported issues should be passed upstream and fixed there. I really >

Re: xorg-server and pixman

2008-12-02 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: > Yeah, pixman is now required for both the xserver and cairo. I thought > DJ added it, but maybe I'm just guessing. It's not part of the Xorg Library section (which is where it appears to belong) and I didn't encounter it anywhere else. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: xorg-server and pixman

2008-12-02 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I know there has been a lot of discussion on Xorg lately, so sorry if > this is bringing up a known issue, but xorg-server also appears to > require pixman now. The instructions in BLFS svn break for me at > xo

xorg-server and pixman

2008-12-02 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hello, I know there has been a lot of discussion on Xorg lately, so sorry if this is bringing up a known issue, but xorg-server also appears to require pixman now. The instructions in BLFS svn break for me at xorg-server because pixman is missing. If I build and install pixman as per the instr

Re: xkeyboard-config and intltool

2008-12-02 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I see on the xkeyboard-config page that intltool is listed as an > optional dependency, but if I try building the current instructions as > is without intltool, I get the following configure error: > > checking for

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: >> Anything else? > > Ticket 2033 -- initramfs. This way people with crappy software "RAID1 > cards" (e.g. Promise, Highpoint, etc.) that require drivers in Windows, > can still boot from those cards. Also, support for MD RAID (*real* > software RAID

xkeyboard-config and intltool

2008-12-02 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hi, I see on the xkeyboard-config page that intltool is listed as an optional dependency, but if I try building the current instructions as is without intltool, I get the following configure error: checking for intltool >= 0.30... ./configure: line 3519: intltool-update: command not found fo

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:07:25 -0500, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anything else? Ticket #2284 - radical plan would be to just drop udev-config completely, then any reported issues should be passed upstream and fixed there. I really don't see anything special about LFS that means

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Anything else? Ticket 2033 -- initramfs. This way people with crappy software "RAID1 cards" (e.g. Promise, Highpoint, etc.) that require drivers in Windows, can still boot from those cards. Also, support for MD RAID (*real* software RAID ;-) ), LVM, and encrypted rootfs

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread Greg Schafer
Greg Schafer wrote: > In a (native) sysroot scenario, anything and _everything_ can be found > on the host. Here's a Binutils thread about a sysrooted ld which touches upon what I'm talking about: http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2008-08/msg00060.html Regards Greg -- http://www.diy-linux.org/

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread Greg Schafer
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Upstream appears to think that using sysroot is the correct approach sysroot is a complete non-starter for us. Think about it. Have you ever tried a sysroot build? In our current build methods, we go to *great* lengths to prevent stuff from being found on the host. In a (

Re: libidn update

2008-12-02 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
2008/12/2 DJ Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: >> Testcase (I think it should even be put into the book): >> >> LANG=en_US xterm >> in that xterm: curl http://räksmörgås.josefsson.org/ >> > Thanks for the testcase Alexander. All of them have been invaluable to > my limited

Re: Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Anything else? Oh, I also forgot. We could give some thought to using DIY's new build method, which is essentially building the first pass of binutils and gcc as cross compilers, cross-compiling the first build of Glibc and building natively after that. There's several

Aiming for 7.0

2008-12-02 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
I would prefer if it didn't take us another year (or more) to push out a 7.0 release. Or, even if it did, as long as the time is well spent. I.E., we are actually pursuing the new features we slated and not just letting package updates slowly creep in. I know we have listed things before, but c