On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 00:06:49 +0100, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't have hal, of course, but I can't see how the _kernel_
> is going to take instructions from it (hal just passes messages
> around in userspace, no ?).
I thought it was D-Bus that was the message passing mechanism, HA
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> DJ Lucas wrote:
>
>>
>> No..only groff CVS.
>>
>
> No, not even groff CVS, because it expects different command line
> options than those hard-coded in Man-DB.
>
I have not looked, but I wonder if he is working on that. He had
mentioned 2.5.3 in that rep
Matthew Burgess wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:52:24 -0500, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> partprobe is very useful. If you create a new partition, you can use
>> partprobe to make the current system recognize it without rebooting.
>
> But partprobe comes from parted, not util-linu
DJ Lucas wrote:
> Ken Moffat wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 05:59:14PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm way on the downhill side of getting all the package
>>> updates in. Groff is sort of a bugaboo, however. The
>>> DJ book uses the Groff-UTF8 package, but I'm not sure
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Subject: Re: iana-etc with STRIP=yes
> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:51:04 -0700, "Dan Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> > "barf" is my standard "m
On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Randy McMurchy wrote:
To this day, using my most modern systems which include Udev/D-Bus/Hal
and all other recent additions, after creating a new partition, I have
to reboot to see it in order to create a filesystem. Just FYI.
When I write in fdisk I always get:
Ken Moffat wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 05:59:14PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm way on the downhill side of getting all the package
>> updates in. Groff is sort of a bugaboo, however. The
>> DJ book uses the Groff-UTF8 package, but I'm not sure it
>> does much.
>>
>> P
Randy McMurchy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm way on the downhill side of getting all the package
> updates in. Groff is sort of a bugaboo, however. The
> DJ book uses the Groff-UTF8 package, but I'm not sure it
> does much.
>
> Please give some input if you have any on this subject.
> It would be an add
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 05:59:14PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm way on the downhill side of getting all the package
> updates in. Groff is sort of a bugaboo, however. The
> DJ book uses the Groff-UTF8 package, but I'm not sure it
> does much.
>
> Please give some input if you ha
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 05:41:57PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote:
> Matthew Burgess wrote:
>
> > Apparently the use case is that after using fdisk to edit the partition
> > table, one would normally reboot so that Linux knows about the new
> > partition and one can run 'mkfs' on the new /dev node.
Hi all,
I'm way on the downhill side of getting all the package
updates in. Groff is sort of a bugaboo, however. The
DJ book uses the Groff-UTF8 package, but I'm not sure it
does much.
Please give some input if you have any on this subject.
It would be an addition to LFS Chapter 6. Do we need it?
Matthew Burgess wrote:
> Apparently the use case is that after using fdisk to edit the partition
> table, one would normally reboot so that Linux knows about the new partition
> and one can run 'mkfs' on the new /dev node. Instead of rebooting, one can
> in fact use partprobe, or partx. I've
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:47:33 -0600, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:52:24 -0500, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> partprobe is very useful. If you create a new partition, you can use
>> partprobe to make the current system recognize it without reboo
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Just a couple of data points:
>
> [snip good data]
Good post, Bruce.
Your input right now is the most swaying of anything.
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Randy McMurchy wrote:
> Matthew Burgess wrote:
>
>> I've done a search of the LSB-Core-Generic-3.2 and LSB-Core-IA32-3.2 PDFs
>> and didn't find any mention of 'addpart', 'delpart' or 'partx'.
>>
>> Looking at the man pages for each, I'm having a hard time understanding the
>> use-cases for each
Matthew Burgess wrote:
> I've done a search of the LSB-Core-Generic-3.2 and LSB-Core-IA32-3.2 PDFs and
> didn't find any mention of 'addpart', 'delpart' or 'partx'.
>
> Looking at the man pages for each, I'm having a hard time understanding the
> use-cases for each of these programs. Why would
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:52:24 -0500, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> partprobe is very useful. If you create a new partition, you can use
> partprobe to make the current system recognize it without rebooting.
But partprobe comes from parted, not util-linux :)
> One determining factor is
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:51:04 -0700, "Dan Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "barf" is my standard "make this program fail" input. I've yet to come
> across any conflicts with that assumption. :)#
echo "barf" works for me :)
Seriously, though, I would expect any reasonable program to call get
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:28:51 -0500, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see that. I'll add a new Component named 'Errata'. Thanks,
> Jeremy.
Thanks Randy. Just so as I'm clear, when someone raises a ticket concerning
the current stable release, it will be marked as COMPONENT: Errata,
Matthew Burgess wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:00:34 -0500, Randy McMurchy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 3. Do #1 and suppress the installation of the wall program in the Sysvinit
>> instructions.
>
> Agreed.
>
>> 2. Pass a configure switch to the Util-Linux-ng configure command so that
>>
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:00:34 -0500, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 3. Do #1 and suppress the installation of the wall program in the
> Sysvinit instructions.
Agreed.
> 2. Pass a configure switch to the Util-Linux-ng configure command so
> that the write program is built and install
Em Tuesday 07 October 2008 14:45:16 Valter Douglas Lisbôa Jr. escreveu:
> Em Tuesday 07 October 2008 13:18:03 Gilles Espinasse escreveu:
> > Selon Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Valter Douglas Lisbôa Jr. wrote:
> > > > Not a major issue, but a recent thread shows using the make STRIP=ye
Em Tuesday 07 October 2008 13:18:03 Gilles Espinasse escreveu:
> Selon Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Valter Douglas Lisbôa Jr. wrote:
> > > Not a major issue, but a recent thread shows using the make STRIP=yes
> > > on iana-etc to cut out comments and accelerate the port search on port
>
Em Tuesday 07 October 2008 13:51:04 Dan Nicholson escreveu:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Jeremy Huntwork
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dan Nicholson wrote:
> >> $ getent services barf
> >> $ echo $?
> >> 2
> >
> > You mean you don't have the barf service on your system? I thought that
> >
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Jeremy Huntwork
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan Nicholson wrote:
>> $ getent services barf
>> $ echo $?
>> 2
>
> You mean you don't have the barf service on your system? I thought that
> was pretty standard... :)
"barf" is my standard "make this program fail" input
TheOldFellow wrote:
> I'm holding off the rebuild until you guys have finished the updates,
> which seems imminent if you've got to 'u'. Then I'll test build 'by
> the book'.
Well, I was running through the book sequentially starting in
chapter 5. I'm into chapter 6 now and it will go very fast.
Dan Nicholson wrote:
> $ getent services barf
> $ echo $?
> 2
You mean you don't have the barf service on your system? I thought that
was pretty standard... :)
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On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Gilles Espinasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Worst case for the search is with a protocol that is not in the file.
> I don't know what happen when resolution fail. Any idea?
It returns an error and stops? I can't imagine what else it could do
if it didn't know ab
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:00:34 -0500
Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 3. Do #1 and suppress the installation of the wall program in the
> Sysvinit instructions.
>
> I like #3 but I've not investigated what it takes to suppress the
> installation of the wall program from either package.
Selon "Valter Douglas Lisbôa Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Em Tuesday 07 October 2008 13:05:44 Dan Nicholson escreveu:
> >
> > Whenever you do a getservbyname(), the glibc resolver has to parse out
> > /etc/services. This happens when you use "http", and the resolver has
> > to decide what port num
Selon Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Valter Douglas Lisbôa Jr. wrote:
> > Not a major issue, but a recent thread shows using the make STRIP=yes on
> > iana-etc to cut out comments and accelerate the port search on port
> > resolution. In the new LSF does anyone remember to put this on the
Em Tuesday 07 October 2008 13:05:44 Dan Nicholson escreveu:
>
> Whenever you do a getservbyname(), the glibc resolver has to parse out
> /etc/services. This happens when you use "http", and the resolver has
> to decide what port number to use. Likewise, when some program
> specifies "tcp", the glib
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Randy McMurchy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Valter Douglas Lisbôa Jr. wrote:
>> Not a major issue, but a recent thread shows using the make STRIP=yes on
>> iana-etc to cut out comments and accelerate the port search on port
>> resolution. In the new LSF does anyone
Randy McMurchy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Noted in DJ's book that he adds the installation of VIM to
> Chapter 5. I do the same on my builds as well.
>
> However, I believe I remember that the community's consensus
> is that it not be there.
>
> Thoughts from others?
I don't see the need. If one wan
Valter Douglas Lisbôa Jr. wrote:
> Not a major issue, but a recent thread shows using the make STRIP=yes on
> iana-etc to cut out comments and accelerate the port search on port
> resolution. In the new LSF does anyone remember to put this on the book?
Not sure about the "accelerate the port s
Not a major issue, but a recent thread shows using the make STRIP=yes on
iana-etc to cut out comments and accelerate the port search on port
resolution. In the new LSF does anyone remember to put this on the book?
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Randy McMurchy wrote:
> Noted in DJ's book that he adds the installation of VIM to
> Chapter 5. I do the same on my builds as well.
Please disregard. I was looking at DJ's chapter 6.
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Hi all,
Noted in DJ's book that he adds the installation of VIM to
Chapter 5. I do the same on my builds as well.
However, I believe I remember that the community's consensus
is that it not be there.
Thoughts from others?
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Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> Hmm. I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure if milestone is the
> right place. Typically, the milestone should point to a release. So
> since the issue would be for a specific book (the current stable one)
> the milestone should probably point to that book version.
Randy McMurchy wrote:
> Could someone with the proper privileges update Trac
> or the mailing lists or whatever it is so that when
> Robert (who I didn't even know had SVN commit privs)
> makes a commit, it will show up in the -book list.
Well, Robert isn't subscribed to lfs-book, so that seems to
Randy McMurchy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Looking at the tickets in Trac, there are a couple that
> really aren't SVN issues, but instead point to the stable
> book in which case to resolve the issues, it takes an
> entry in the stable errata.
>
> Therefore, I think that someone with Trac rights should
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 07:52:33AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks to Greg Shafer who pointed out several things about our
> current Perl build method in Chapter 6, I'd like to propose the
> following changes:
>
> 1. Remove the sed for the "Fix an incompatibility with gcc-4.3.2:
Hi all,
Please reference http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2181
In this ticket there are 3 issues I'd like to address so we can
close this ticket.
Issue 1:
The /usr/bin/wall program from Sysvinit program is overwritten
during the Util-linux-ng installation. Choices are:
1. Not worry
Hi all,
Looking at the tickets in Trac, there are a couple that
really aren't SVN issues, but instead point to the stable
book in which case to resolve the issues, it takes an
entry in the stable errata.
Therefore, I think that someone with Trac rights should
create a milestone called "Errata".
Hi all,
Thanks to Greg Shafer who pointed out several things about our
current Perl build method in Chapter 6, I'd like to propose the
following changes:
1. Remove the sed for the "Fix an incompatibility with gcc-4.3.2:"
I have confirmed it is not required.
2. Add the following before the config
Could someone with the proper privileges update Trac
or the mailing lists or whatever it is so that when
Robert (who I didn't even know had SVN commit privs)
makes a commit, it will show up in the -book list.
Thanks,
Randy
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