Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Phillip Huang
> of course, distro comes into play too. I used to be a devoted LFS > user. Until I tried to build a x86_64 LFS. Never got it working and > gave up. I installed Ubuntu Feisty x86_64 a while later and I've been > running it and upgrading smoothly all the way to Hardy beta. It's been > absolutely gre

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Greg Schafer
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > To me, the > advantage of 64-bit is when you have more then 4G ram or are working > with very large ( > 4G ) files. It is also useful if you are doing > extensive numerical calculations that need high accuracy. Another data point - AFAICT most of the key upstream toolchai

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 01:31:20PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > > There might be problems with some AV apps or libraries, and perhaps > java and OOo - all the AV I use seems to work ok on x86_64-64 > (unlike on ppc, ppc64), and I avoid java and OOo (I tried a binary > when it was staroffice and sti

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:55 AM, Alan Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This even applies to Ubuntu 64bit which I have tried. I removed it > within a few hours when I couldn't load Acrobat reader, various media > codecs and several other apps... > I have been using Ubuntu Gutsy x86_64 since its

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Clyde Forrester
Alan Lord wrote: > Phillip Huang wrote: > >> Hello folks, >> >> I want to build LFS on my new 64bit platform(Intel EM64T), and I googled >> CLFS, >> while according to another link: http://lwn.net/Articles/243695/ >> >> > > I hope this isn't teaching you to suck eggs, but my experience wi

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ioan Ionita wrote: > I'm a regular kind of Desktop user myself and I'd never move back to > 32-bit. I've been on x86_64 for almost 2 years now and it's been > wonderful. My benchmarks have shown a 20% performance gain on some > workloads. What workloads? Are you comparing using the same hardwar

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 02:40:14PM +0200, Ioan Ionita wrote: > > I hope this isn't teaching you to suck eggs, but my experience with > > various 64bit versions of Linux is - frankly - don't bother currently. > > > > There are too many issues and non-supported applications for native > > 64bit p

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Alan Lord
Ioan Ionita wrote: > FUD. No examples. What issues? What applications? of those, how many > are closed-source? In my experience, Flash works flawlessly with > nspluginwrapper, so no need for 32-bit firefox. Anything else > problematic? Skype? Not FUD - This isn't some kind of OOXML war. I'm just

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Ioan Ionita
> I hope this isn't teaching you to suck eggs, but my experience with > various 64bit versions of Linux is - frankly - don't bother currently. > > There are too many issues and non-supported applications for native > 64bit platforms. So you end up needing to build a multi-lib system (both > 64

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread J. Greenlees
Alan Lord wrote: > > There are too many issues and non-supported applications for native > 64bit platforms. So you end up needing to build a multi-lib system (both > 64 and 32bit libraries) which, to me anyway, feels like bloat that I can > do without. true > Also, I have yet to see any dece

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Alan Lord
Phillip Huang wrote: > Hello folks, > > I want to build LFS on my new 64bit platform(Intel EM64T), and I googled > CLFS, > while according to another link: http://lwn.net/Articles/243695/ > I hope this isn't teaching you to suck eggs, but my experience with various 64bit versions of Linux is

Re: Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
2008/3/24, Phillip Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello folks, > > I want to build LFS on my new 64bit platform(Intel EM64T), and I googled > CLFS, > while according to another link: http://lwn.net/Articles/243695/ > > JH said the x86_64 LFS LiveCD was available in July 30,2007, and the above >

Which type of LFS should I choose on 64bit system

2008-03-24 Thread Phillip Huang
Hello folks, I want to build LFS on my new 64bit platform(Intel EM64T), and I googled CLFS, while according to another link: http://lwn.net/Articles/243695/ JH said the x86_64 LFS LiveCD was available in July 30,2007, and the above link provide download address. However, I do not find any relev