Re: GCC-3.3.6

2005-08-17 Thread Greg Schafer
Randy McMurchy wrote: > I am *not* in the class of individuals you mention above. Those guys > are experts. I, however, don't know shit about GCC internals. :-) Me is no toolchain expert. Those folks who write the toolchain code are the real experts. But I'll say my piece anyway :-) I cannot com

Re: Chapter 1 ordering/contents

2005-08-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Tushar Teredesai wrote: > IMO, the effort to payoff ratio of maintaining that page is not that high. Hmm. In that case we should go ahead... :) However, I think you meant too high. OK. Unless someone (non-editor) asks with a good rationale, lets drop the change summary idea. -- Bruce

Re: Security patches

2005-08-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Archaic wrote: > On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 09:47:06PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > This vulnerability should be low risk for most of us, but I think it's > > the sort of thing that ought to be applied. > > Agreed. > Hmm, I think I should have checked the patches list befo

Re: Bogus usage of gcc --print-file

2005-08-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/17/05 16:18 CST: > Randy McMurchy quoted from the Bash man page: >> "Command substitutions may be nested. To nest when using the >> backquoted form, escape the inner backquotes with backslashes." > > Can you say *ugly*. :) I know, I know I debated e

Re: Bogus usage of gcc --print-file

2005-08-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 08/17/05 14:33 CST: > > >> Unfortunately, one can't nest backticks, > > > I'm not so sure about that. From the Bash man page: > > "Command substitutions may be nested. To nest when using the > backquoted form, escape the inner

Re: The trunk Changelog.

2005-08-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jim Gifford wrote: > Tushar Teredesai wrote: > >> Now can someone please start a thread on LFS-dev to remove the >> "Upgraded", "Added" and "Removed" sections from the LFS changelog so >> that I can vote +1 on it. >> >> >> > The reason that is in LFS is because of the upgrades from the previous

Re: Changelog Format

2005-08-17 Thread Uli Fahrenberg
Matthew Burgess, Aug 17, 21:50 +0100: Obviously it'd be much easier to convince me if you both provided reasons *why* you don't like the current format. Confuses people :-) http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/lfs-dev/2002-September/028191.html Note that at that time,

Re: Changelog Format

2005-08-17 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 8/17/05, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > > > I prefer a straight forward chronological list of changes without all > > the sections: Upgraded", "Added" and "Removed". > > Proposals generally are better received when they contain rationale (and > no, "I p

Re: Changelog Format

2005-08-17 Thread Richard A Downing
Matthew Burgess wrote: > Richard A Downing wrote: > >> I prefer a straight forward chronological list of changes without all >> the sections: Upgraded", "Added" and "Removed". > > > Proposals generally are better received when they contain rationale (and > no, "I prefer" doesn't count!) :) It s

Re: Changelog Format

2005-08-17 Thread Jim Gifford
I would not object to moving the upgraded, added, and new stuff to a What's new type of page, I'm just against removing it from the book, because it's a good source to view what the differences are between the current release and branches. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS Use

Re: Changelog Format

2005-08-17 Thread Richard A Downing
Tushar Teredesai wrote: > On 8/17/05, Richard A Downing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I suggest LFS changes to this simplified form, although, as a >>non-editor, I don't really have a vote! :-) > Additionally, if folks do find these fields useful, I propose moving > them below the changelog ent

Re: Changelog Format

2005-08-17 Thread Matthew Burgess
Richard A Downing wrote: I prefer a straight forward chronological list of changes without all the sections: Upgraded", "Added" and "Removed". Proposals generally are better received when they contain rationale (and no, "I prefer" doesn't count!) :) Seriously though, I think it provides a n

Re: Changelog Format

2005-08-17 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 8/17/05, Richard A Downing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Over on BLFS-dev we have been changing our changelog format. In the cut > and thrust of debate ;-) we discovered that at least two of us didn't > like the LFS changelog format much. > > I prefer a straight forward chronological list of ch

Changelog Format

2005-08-17 Thread Richard A Downing
Over on BLFS-dev we have been changing our changelog format. In the cut and thrust of debate ;-) we discovered that at least two of us didn't like the LFS changelog format much. I prefer a straight forward chronological list of changes without all the sections: Upgraded", "Added" and "Removed".

Re: The trunk Changelog.

2005-08-17 Thread Jim Gifford
Tushar Teredesai wrote: Now can someone please start a thread on LFS-dev to remove the "Upgraded", "Added" and "Removed" sections from the LFS changelog so that I can vote +1 on it. The reason that is in LFS is because of the upgrades from the previous version, we get a lot of questions on

Re: Bogus usage of gcc --print-file

2005-08-17 Thread Matthew Burgess
Randy McMurchy wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 08/17/05 14:33 CST: Unfortunately, one can't nest backticks, I'm not so sure about that. From the Bash man page: "Command substitutions may be nested. To nest when using the backquoted form, escape the inner backquotes with ba

Re: The trunk Changelog.

2005-08-17 Thread M.Canales.es
El Miércoles, 17 de Agosto de 2005 21:16, Richard A Downing escribió: > Does this mean a big change in the markup that we have to edit - does it > introduce any more error prone-ness? As you can see in the new XML, there is a template on the top ready to be cut-and-pasted and then edited to inse

Re: Bogus usage of gcc --print-file

2005-08-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 08/17/05 14:33 CST: > Unfortunately, one can't nest backticks, I'm not so sure about that. From the Bash man page: "Command substitutions may be nested. To nest when using the backquoted form, escape the inner backquotes with backslashes." -- Randy

Re: Bogus usage of gcc --print-file

2005-08-17 Thread Mike Hernandez
On 8/17/05, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Basically it's because, purely through habit, I only ever use backticks. > Unfortunately, one can't nest backticks, so I came up with the mixture > of backticks and $(). Oh, plus the fact that in my makefile based > scripts the '$' needs e

Re: Bogus usage of gcc --print-file

2005-08-17 Thread Matthew Burgess
Mike Hernandez wrote: This stuff is all over my head but I'm just wondering why you would mix backticks and $(). Why not just use: echo $(dirname $(gcc -print-file-name=libgcc.a))/specs ? Basically it's because, purely through habit, I only ever use backticks. Unfortunately, one can't nest b

Re: More ALSA

2005-08-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > DJ, > I'm having trouble understanding the script in alsa-utils: > > #!/bin/sh -e > DEV_BASENAME="${DEVNAME##*/}" > N="${DEV_BASENAME#controlC}" > case "$DEV_BASENAME" in >controlC[0-7]) > x=0 > while [ $x -lt 20 ] > do > sleep 1 > if [ -

/etc/limits

2005-08-17 Thread David Fix
Hey folks... :) I was just checking the man page for "limits", and saw this: --- The limits file (/etc/limits by default or LIMITS_FILE defined config.h) describes the resource limits you wish to impose. It should be owned by root and readable by root account only. --- However, currently, /et