Summarises the transfer window so far.
Looks like Raphinha will be on his way as well. Can't see Casilla staying,
and I don't see much of a future for Shackleton, Costa or Poveda. It would
be good to get a bit more cash in, but we will probably just loan them out
until their contracts are up.
Hope
Well I've seen today's team and guess what. Bamford injured, Joffy not
selected.
So if Marsch does not think Joffy is good enough to start, how can the very
idea of signing a striker be impeding his progress? James and Rodrigo have
proved they are not C.Forwards time and time again. Does Marsch r
How wrong could I have been?
Rodrigo looked like a proper C. Forward today.
Struijk was decent too. Probably their best performance for Leeds in both
cases.
Brilliant stuff!
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It comes to something when you have to agree with the analytical nous of
Paul Merson. But his assessment that Leeds just do everything at 100mph
until the tire themselves out is spot on.
The team is crying out for somebody who can put their foot on the ball and
slow things down at times. Whilst Si
t was Summerville.
KOT.
..
On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, 14:33 Richard Walker, wrote:
> Isn't that what Roca is there to do ?
>
> He obviously isn't doing that.
>
> On Tuesday, 11 October 2022 at 13:14:17 BST, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
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The list certainly spices up a bit when the team starts to struggle!
I'm not too sure what any manager could do with this squad.
To survive in the Premier League all teams need to be able to defend at
times and not give soft chances away.
Leeds have not been able to do that for many years.
We got
I've been trying to work out why Leeds just don't seem to be able to
defend. Statistics and observation bear out the the team can't defend at
all. We look vulnerable at set pieces, when trying to keep it tight and
most of all in transition. It is very difficult for a team to stay in the
premier
d hope tactic'. Equals more counter-attacks for something to
> go wrong.
>
>
> I think we need a left back more than a striker - but otherwise its more
> tactics than the players
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Kevin
Hi Dave, Not sure who that might be though. When Wolves go out and spend 45
mil on a bloke who has scored 6 goals in 40 games for one of the better
teams in a less demanding league than ours. You assume Leeds will have to
break our transfer record to get someone with a pretty modest chance of
succe
Hi Dave, Yes it does not add up in my mind either. If we need a left back,
then sign one. If the current set of Centre Backs aren’t good enough, then
why give 2 of them new contracts at a time when the other 2 appear to be
first choice.
He may prove to be an upgrade in both roles but it doesn’t
I'm not great fan of the Mail on Sunday, but there is a huge piece on the
Cardiff game 21 years ago when we were top of the Premiership and got
humbled by a committed Cardiff team.
The current players, management, owners and everyone should be forced to
read that this morning and told how much the
Agree with what you say about Greenwood, but I have to say that seemingly
playing 4-4-2 has left Gyabi and Greenwood a bit outnumbered.
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 at 14:56, wrote:
> When I said we’ll need to score 3 to win it, can I increase that to 4!
>
> Llorente/Struijk - Cooper must be pissing hims
As I’m in digest land I have only just learned of the sad loss of Dave.
I remember many of the stories and remember Dave himself from list meets
from the early days, and of course the early Worldnet weekends.
He was someone who helped to make those events special to me and many
others.
So sorry
So to summarise general opinion, the squad is pretty well off for strikers
and wingers.
No.10 or attacking midfield is an issue. Aaronson off form, Greenwood not
quite there, or shoehorn in Harrison or Rodrigo!
Nobody has impressed alongside Adams either. Roca and again Greenwood being
the main c
I’m still not sure where I feel on the whole saga here. I quite liked
Marsch as a person, his ‘americanness’ didn’t bother me and he did keep us
up last season - with a fair bit of luck right at the end. (Brentford down
to 9 men).
However, the results were not going well and he seemed to be runni
Oh dear Dave,
Unfortunately this was my impression from the bits I’ve seen of him on the
box.
To me he did not look like a C.Forward at all. It seems like we have spent
35M on a wide player who does not yet look first choice.
I was going to suggest is was time to let him and Aaronson loose this
I always think this is an overused term, as there is usually another day to
fight, and Leeds have 14 more games after tomorrow.
However we need at least another 5 wins this season and Soton at home is
probably the easiest game have, on paper. So we need at least 4 wins from
the 5 easiest home game
Not an absolutely must win, but a defeat would make Leeds favourites to go
down IMO.
Given we need at least 4 victories, I have this game down as the 4th
easiest after Forest, Leicester, Palace at home.
Not winning would mean Leeds have to find a victory from a less likely
source such as one of t
I think the Liverpool game finally proved to me that the team only have
perhaps 8 or 9 players of trustworthy premiership quality. Of those, 4 are
injured or not up to. Speed. Wöber, Rodrigo, Dallas, Adams. 4 are wingers
and Robin Koch in defence.
The amount spent on players like Llorente, Firp
I’d say a bit, but not much!
Gracia made a few changes, but the worst midfield in the history of the
premier league remained intact. Roca was a bit better today, but McKennie
and Aaronson were abysmal. Surely Gyabi and Greenwood could not have been
worse. I’ve never seen a team so vulnerable when
e place.
>
> Very depressing times!
>
>
>
> > On 22 Apr 2023, at 22:59, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > I’d say a bit, but not much!
> > Gracia made a few changes, but the worst midfield in the history of the
> >
Leicester won at the weekend without Maddison or Barnes, both are likely
to play tonight. Barnes always scores against Leeds and Maddison needs to
be kept quiet.
What can we expect from Leeds in terms of shape, selection, style and
motivation?
IMO if we lose this game there is no way back. But
Looking at the significant home and away records of opponents in the last 3
games, and where Leeds may get a win:-
Rationally Newcastle is the toughest having lost only 3 away. West Ham
7-4-7 at home is the next toughest and lastly Spurs,who have lost more than
they have won away, becomes the easi
Well that was underwhelming.
The same individual defensive errors that have been prevalent for the last
4 years have finally taken their toll.
Coupled with the ability to give away possession softly when committing
people forward which no manager pr team selection has been able to stop.
Is anythin
g to see - I’m really hoping some of the
> recently acquired ‘stars’ leave asap - I don’t see them even being
> Championship quality!
>
> They think it’s all over - it is now! And thank god for that!
>
>
>
> > On 28 May 2023, at 23:06, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
&
I think I agree with Matt in that however crap Radrizani an Orta were in
the transfer market, and even with this latest gaffe, he was infinitely
better than what went before. He was largely responsible for getting
Bielsa, which gave Leeds 3 years of football that I never thought I would
see again.
So Fat Sam has gone then!
I think that has put the nail in any prospect of an immediate return.
Whilst never being delighted about him being there in the first place, if
he’d been given a season, with a bit of authority over transfers during the
ownership wrangle, we would at least have been able
I’m beginning to worry about the lack of a manager. When (some of) the
players come back next week, who is going to take charge of training for a
start?
I’m expecting around 12 of last years squeal to move on, and won’t be too
sorry to lose half of them.
If that does happen, a combination of last
Kind of agree with John and Rich.
It might be a bit much to expect a promotion push this season, as it will
be a miracle if we have a decent balanced squad in the available
timescale. I hope Farke will be given 2 seasons, especially as the 2nd
year parachute payment is still pretty good.
Can’t se
It just goes to show how bad most of the recent purchases have been in that
we can’t even get a fee for players that cost us nearly £60 Mil and there
will be more go that way, as no clubs in Europe can afford to buy anyone
and only 2 or 3 of them are good enough to play in the Prem.
The squad is i
As Dave says, we don't seem to be at all ready. I can't see Leeds getting
going early enough to make a real promotion challenge. I'm hoping the 49
ers injection, the parachute payment and another transfer window to sort
things out might just give us a chance of sneaking into the play offs.
I'd lik
This is what the Welsh press recently said about Rodon,our new loan
defender.
'Despite his struggles at Rennes, Rodon has been a consistent performer for
the Welsh national team, earning 37 caps. However, his lack of regular
football took a toll on his form, evident in the recent 4-2 Euro 2024
qual
I’m getting quite pissed off that the online reporters are expressing
surprise/concern that we are going to be selling some players.
We need to sell at least 3 of Gnonto, Harrison, Sinisterra, Adams, Meslier
to fund the players that need to be bought. It will depend on which of
those that anyone i
I hadn't realised that Harrison was yet another who could leave on what is
essentially a free transfer. I'm intrigued as to what happens to the now 7
loanees in a years time.
Are they entitled to another loan ad infinitum until all their contracts
run down?
If by some miracle Farke puts a promot
Firstly, Leeds dominated WBA last night, by every measurement and in just
general play. Considering the injuries, departures and want-sways I was
quite heartened
However, like last season. It only needs on little spell from the
opposition, and they score. Last night that spell was instigated by
d
For the first time in a long while, I look at Saturdays team sheet and it
looked like a team. A full bench too with most positions and eventualities
covered.
And so it transpired. Worryingly the defence still looked suspect, but the
midfield also looked to be outnumbered it what seemed to be a 4-
Can’t see why they’ve let Greenwood go. Looks to be the best bet in the
position they now call No 10 to me.
Can also play a bit deeper, and seems to be the best of a very poor bunch
on free kicks & corners.
Another winger coming in? Must be about to lose 1 or 2.
KOT
All very quiet after the weekend performance. I guess the team are allowed
a game where the never really get going. Conversely Soton took every
opportunity they got and Leeds could not really come to terms with Alcaraz?
Playing the false 9. Cooper in particular was dragged into all sorts of
stran
Last night showed to me how much we need the creative midfield player to
turn promising positions into the type of chances that even our strikers
can’t miss. Then pick whichever of Rutter, Piroe and Bamford looks like
they may eventually score a goal. None of them does at the moment. Bamford
in pa
A bit disappointing as Leeds never really got going in an even first half.
Preston had set out to intimidate Leeds physically, and did it very
successfully.
Meslier’s stupid sending off and then Preston’s immediate goal made it too
hard. James’s penalty was a bit fortuitous, I’d have been livid if
Looks a weak team to me. The fact that Ayling is the only defender on the
bench must mean that Cresswell and Hjelde are not even on Farke’s radar
regarding playing. So anyone else leaving will have to be replaced numbers
wise at least. Interesting to see who would be Farke’s first choice as
full
Just realised Cooper is on the bench but carrying a knock,
KOT
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> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 8:58 AM Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
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>> Looks a weak team to me. The fact that Ayling is the only defender on the
>> bench must mean that Cresswell and Hjelde are not even on Farke’s radar
>> re
Yeah still about, but the T shirt has long since been cast out.
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No Gnonto even on the bench! Must be on his way!!
Also probable that Cresswell and Gelhardt will be going too, so need to
start getting a few players in to replace the numbers at least.
KOT
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One of the issues that interests me is what happens to all the players out
on loan at the end of this season. Obviously it will depend to some extent
on the division Leeds end up in, but I’d be interested to know if people
think any of the ‘deserters’ would be welcomed back.
Whilst part of me wan
I’m not quite sure, and I suspect nobody fully understands how transfer
fees received v residual values of assets actually affects FFP and I
suspect some of the loans were just as beneficial for Leeds as the player
themselves.
However, I can’t forgive the Orta regime for essentially leaving the
Big game tonight!
Not really because it is Leicester, but because it will be difficult! Leeds
need to keep winning to stay up with Ipswich and Southampton. A draw/defeat
could take a few weeks to make-up.
It is great that we are now essentially in with a 1 in 3 chance of
automatic promotion and ad
brilliant.
On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 at 22:27, Robert Heath wrote:
> Oh dear KevI think that's the second time this season one of
> your posts has not aged well! No we don't have any impact subs!
>
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 6:28 PM Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
>
I think it was Villa v Southampton but may be wrong. He certainly played
for Southampton for a while.
All good goals too, proper headers and slices. No questionable
deflections.
KOT
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I’ve also been thinking about this and when considering the alternatives
I’d say ‘YES’.
I’d say it would be great go up this year, but if not, promotion is
practically essential next time before the parachute payment reduces and
then disappears.'
If/when we get there, there will be some difficult
If we don’t get promoted the situation won’t arise.
After his time at City and performances at West Ham I don’t think anyone
will pay anywhere near £30M for him.
Given that we have been short of cover or anyone on the bench in that role
this season due to Ampadu and Archie playing othe positions.
If we do not end up getting promoted and lose Gnonto, Summerville, Rutter,
Firpo as may be the case it would be difficult, but not devastating IMO.
So we may end up having to sign 9 or 10 players to replace those being sold
or not re-signing. That’s no more than many clubs will have to do anyway,
I’m kind of hoping that he starts off with the strongest team just in case,
but if Ipswich are 2 goals up after an hour, he might as well manage/rest
some of the key players.
I wouldn’t read too much into Joffy being taken out of U23s. He would be
on the bench anyway, as I can’t see James being r
As my record at watching Leeds live in play off matches is no wins in 7
games, you will all be pleased that I haven't been able to get a ticket, so
that must increase our chances.
I kind of made up my mind after the Doncaster game, reinforced by the Derby
debacle that it is just too painful on the
Must admit I think the awarding of a trophy for finishing 3rd is a bit
daft. I bet it was a Sky idea to enable them to hype it up even more.
Taking of betting I see Leeds are favourites with most bookies at 4-6
compared to Southampton at 6-5. I guess that is based on the fact that we
finished high
There we are. Encapsulates the season. Loads of possession. Shit set
pieces. Pathetic shooting.
I think the management are happier in the championship, where they can win
more than they lose, without having to take any risks.
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Just watched another enthralling game where an unfancied team, in this case
Albania defended AND ATTACKED as though their lives depended on it.
Such a contrast between them and other so-called minnows such as Georgia
and Slovenia compared to Leeds meek performance at Wembley in a game
arguably as
Cheers John,
Wonder how many will get changed for TV this year?!!
Kev
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hat aren't will be the
> exception.
>
> The new SkySports+ deal has allowed the traditional 3pm Saturday kick off
> to be completely eradicated for the first game of the season for every EFL
> club above League 2.
> Progress...
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
&
Just thought I'd add a bit to what Dave N said.
At 66 ys old, this was my first ever Elland Rd friendly.
Apart from the actual action the main thing that hit me was how poor the
information is, if you can't see the big screen from where you are sat. I
was in the top of the East Stand and there was
So, it all starts again.
This year, only the top 2 will suffice. The huge reduction in parachute
payment for year 3 in the Championship would financially reduce Leeds to a
run-of-the-mill side at this level when compared to the teams who would
come down.
Am I optimistic? Well not entirely. Leeds
Looking at the stats:
Leeds:
Shots 22, On target 10, goals 3
Pompey:
5,4,3
- All in all just very ‘Leeds’!
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Whilst Farke is not to blame for the legacy contracts, he should have at
least been aware of the vulnerability that was there.
He has been too ready to get rid of fringe players. Meaning that he
actually weakened the squad in the January window and leaves us very short
of numbers now.
Even a Pove
I know we have to take whoever we can get, but the only way this makes
sense to me is if Gnonto is going to be sold!
With Gnonto and Aaronson already in place as Right Footed left wingers, and
James able to switch over at a pinch.
A like for like Summerville replacement was never a priority in my
Well, this was my first early KO home match for a number of years. I
remember a couple of home matches v Scum in early 2000s.
Anyway, This meant a 7am start from Oxfordshire, and the consequent hour it
took to get the last mile to the ground and park, meant we had time for a
quick burger and piss
Missed that one John. A few names have been mentioned in the last couple of
weeks. I didn’t realise it had happened.:-)
Let’s hope he is fit enough to make the bench in the next couple of weeks.
On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 at 07:09, John Boocock wrote:
> Is this French lad we have signed this person? H
Seems like most of us saw the game the same way.
I thought Bogle’s positioning and covering was better than it has been, but
he did make that one wild challenge, in the 2nd half which luckily missed
everything.
Whilst Tanaka and Rothwell came of age as 1st team players v Sheff Utd.,
the Watford g
So, I managed to get tickets for the QPR game on Saturday through the
ballot! The drawback of the ballot is that you have no idea where they are
going to put you.
So my tickets for Saturday are in C16, bottom of the south end of the West
Stand. I thought that is where the visitors go, but I must
in
> your ear all match.
>
> On Wednesday 6 November 2024 at 10:20:36 GMT, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
>
> So, I managed to get tickets for the QPR game on Saturday through the
> ballot! The drawback of the ballot is that you have no i
Interesting team today. Totally agree with giving Rodon & Aaronson a rest.
Not sure about Guillavogui an C Back after his performance against
Harrogate. Ampadu would have been safer and starting Gruev in midfield.
Chambers is an odd choice at 10. It will be interesting to see how far away
from bein
Hi Rob,
A bit late in the day, but here is my experience. This often happens in
the Members sale when there are no more left, or as Nick says the website
is being crap. But it could be because not all tickets have been released.
For league games there are 2 other chances for tickets.
1 is the ba
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>
> I think that you are being ever so slightly unfair to Aaronson who,
> for 70
> minutes normally, can upset teams with his energy and mobility just
> as much
> as Rutter could - and he has a very slightly better conversion rate
>
So Hull away today, then a break from the league.
A win will put us kind of where I hoped we would be at this stage.
Hopes for transfer window are to improve the 9 and 10 positions, with
Bamford and Gelhardt as the obvious players to make room.
Hopefully the internet stories that Struijk is on th
Here is an unsent draft from early September that I came across, but forgot
to send, with my feelings about signings in the summer window.
I've kept it as it was, but have added some comments with half a season's
hindsight
Just to bore everyone rigid, I've done my take on the 10 players new to the
tatic_>
>
> On Saturday, February 8, 2025, 11:57 am, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> Interesting team today. Totally agree with giving Rodon & Aaronson a rest.
> Not sure about Guillavogui an C Back after his performance against
> Harrog
Hi Tim, If you have to resort to Sky Go, you may need to get yourself a
VPN. Sky Go does not seem to work from a non-UK IP address.
Also it pisses me off that when I’m out of the UK, then I still can’t see
games on LUTV with my membership subscription. I thought you could watch
them outside UK.
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Thanks for posting this John. Sorry I could not be there yesterday.
I did take a moment to reflect on Da Rev’s passing, and others we have lost
recently.
MOT
KoT
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As an ageing fan from the other end of the country, I have considered
adding myself to the ST waiting list.
I have not done this for 2 reasons.
1. I'm not going to pay (every year) to be stay on a waiting list. I
think that is a bit steep. By all means make people refitted every year,
but asking
Just following on from what Dave said.
I kind of agree about the midfield. I really don't think Ampadu and Tanaka
have actually gelled together at all. They seem to want to do the same job
when playing together. The midfield seems to function better with one of
them alongside either Gruev or Rothw
Well what a day.
We ‘chose’ a good day to get to our first game for a while. Largely due to
the kick off time, and being successful in the lottery known as the Members
Sale.
Anyway I was feeling surprisingly confident before KO. As I said to my
daughter - almost as confident as I was before the
Still buzzing from last night's comeback, I was looking forward to reading
the list comments on the digest this morning.
I was shocked and saddened instead to read of John (The Reverend) Lee's sad
passing.
I first met John in the very early days of the list, the Lards,
Euro/Worldnet etc. Being a
After yesterday, and all but the first 15 of the West Brom game, I'm
getting worried that the team has hit the wall!
It is almost like the comebacks v Sheff Utd and Sunderland took a lot out
of them.
Farke has pretty much settled on his first 11, and from having
theoretically the strongest bench
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> Conte
Not particularly earth shattering perception from the Grauniad there.
The relegated teams have a huge financial advantage for at least 2 years to
get back up.
Once there, the promoted teams cannot possibly strengthen enough to stay
there and remain PSR compliant.
If Leeds get back up we will be c
Looks like Farke has finally lost patience with Meslier. Whilst the first
goal by Swansea was undoubtedly down to him, I’m not sure the 2nd was a
huge blunder. 3 or 4 bits of sloppy play led up to that shot, which was
well struck from fairly close in, albeit at a tight angle. There is an
element
I’m not sure I’ll count on this Pixar guy until I read he actually signs,
But tbf this regime have certainly got some deals over the line already.
Not that I’d heard of any of them before, apart from Longstaff. But if
most of them come good, that will give us a chance in the Prem.
Still some mor
So we missed out on Pixao, or Pixar as my auto correct called him yesterday.
Always had the impression that he would prefer Marseille, and looking at
Champions League v Relegation battle, it is difficult to argue otherwise.
I’d be ok with Gnonto and Ramazani going for left wing position. I think
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