Just following on from what Dave said.
I kind of agree about the midfield. I really don't think Ampadu and Tanaka
have actually gelled together at all. They seem to want to do the same job
when playing together. The midfield seems to function better with one of
them alongside either Gruev or Rothwell.
The problem now with Struijk and Rothwell injured, is that there is nobody
to bring in to midfield to freshen it up as Tananka and Gruev tire. This
was a significant issue towards the end of last season. With Archie
playing right back as well there was no respite for Gruev and Kamara.
I think Wober may have to come in at some point so Ampadu can push forward
allowing Tanaka or Gruev a rest here and there, if Rothwell is out for long.
Of course the other issue is that the set pieces were unsurprisingly poor
with our only decent deliverer, and only real threat both injured.
I'm not sure how to resolve those issues together, but let's hope Daniel
can!
KoT
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5. Re: 14% (Ted)
6. Re: 14% (n...@6haroldplace.co.uk)
7. Re: Two things (David Komadina)
8. Re: Two things (John Boocock)
9. Re: 14% (Simon McNally)
10. Re: Two things (paul.tweney)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 11:26:47 +0000 (UTC)
From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
To: leeds list <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: [LU] Boro
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Well that was a wild ride -being a leeds fan must take years off your life
For some reason, even when drinking , I get miles more nervous watching on
TV than in the ground Obviously not helped by shocking decisions by the
linesmen- the Tanaka 'goal' would have let me enjoy the match with a 2 goal
cushion.
Dan James was outstanding and he, above all of them, seems to be the one
really dragging us forward determined not to fail again ( so of course he
is the one new doubt for weekend )
I think , just as we got lucky in some ways with Amps and Gruev being
injured earlier on so Tanaka and Rothwell played, Struick being injured and
moving Amps to Centre back actually suits us.
Bamford looked sharp and took his 'goal' well, I would consider starting
him on Saturday instead of a totally out of form Piroe
With the other results going our way the picture looks so much better than
immediately after the Luton game ( 2 defeats for Sheff U really helping)
It is totally up to us now, each game looked at individually is capable of
being a leeds win on paper.
It seems very odd that the same lino has now chalked off 3 perfectly good
goals by us ( last night, Coventry and Millwall) even odder is that
despite those awful , and obvious, mistakes we won all 3 of those games
So it's now back in our own hands, we are top of the league with 5 to go -
3 at-home , so please Leeds do not blow it now - thank you
Dave
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 15:43:00 +0100
From: Tracey Lee <tmle...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Voice Of The Fans
Message-ID: <e60c294f-1c2d-4898-8da9-085f85751...@yahoo.co.uk>
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The date’s in my diary John.
Also thanks for sending the tapes and CD’s last week, I’ll be listening to
them soon!
Tracey 🙂
Sent from my iPhone
> On 9 Apr 2025, at 11:28, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net> wrote:
>
> Claire Warwick and I are involved in a talk at Leeds Local Studies
Library in July (7th) as part of their British Library sponsored 'Voice of
the Fans' project. There should also be a blog piece from us shortly. The
accompanying exhibition opens in May sometime.
https://libraries.leeds.gov.uk/what-you-can-do/voice-fans-exhibition
>
> The talk : 'Marching On-Line Together" with a subtitle of 'a history of
the Leeds United Email List'.
>
> Claire Warwick and John Boocock discuss the origins and history of the
Unofficial Leeds United Email List and football supporters in Cyberspace.
The ‘Leeds List’ claims to be the oldest surviving football supporters’
email list in the UK. Starting life on Internet Relay Chat in the early
1990s, the 'List' parallels the democratisation and development (or
otherwise) of the internet. Claire and John will tell the tale of a
community of football supporters coming together using the internet over
three decades. Initially mainly inhabited by techies and academics, the
‘List’ soon became the on-line home to Leeds United Supporters from all
walks of life, spread right across the World. As well as developing strong
bonds otherwise not available to isolated Leeds United fans, it also
produced a language of its own, a rather exceptional football tournament,
some memorable meetings, and some headaches for Leeds United. Claire and
John will will also compare the 'List' to the emergence of other social
networks and point out some rather striking cultural differences.
>
> Put this in your diaries if you are free and in Leeds at 6pm on Monday
7th of July
>
> Cheers
>
> Betty
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 17:30:20 +0100
From: Nick Allen <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk>
To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: [LU] 14%
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That’s what my ST will go up by, to £632 this coming season, whichever
division.
With a note to say “thanks for sticking with us”
Nick
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 18:18:14 +0100
From: Paul Cundell <p...@cundell.com>
To: Nick Allen <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] 14%
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I guess that's supply and demand - they've a 25k waiting list for STs - if
we won't pay it, someone else will
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, 17:30 Nick Allen, <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote:
> That’s what my ST will go up by, to £632 this coming season, whichever
> division.
>
> With a note to say “thanks for sticking with us”
>
> Nick
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 19:05:48 +0100
From: Ted <tedhea...@gmail.com>
To: Paul Cundell <p...@cundell.com>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] 14%
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I'm not so sure Paul, how many of those will want to buy, if we cock up
promotion again?
I think sales will fall off, back to 28-30k if we stay in the Championship
over the next couple of year.
It still seems a pretty high increase all round to me.
I know there's a lot of people, especially older Season Ticket holders like
me, who are losing interest and may pack it in quite soon (for various
reasons) - this price hike might just make their minds up (especially if we
don't go up!)
Ted H
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, 18:26 Paul Cundell, <p...@cundell.com> wrote:
> I guess that's supply and demand - they've a 25k waiting list for STs - if
> we won't pay it, someone else will
>
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, 17:30 Nick Allen, <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > That’s what my ST will go up by, to £632 this coming season, whichever
> > division.
> >
> > With a note to say “thanks for sticking with us”
> >
> > Nick
> >
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 19:07:33 +0100
From: "n...@6haroldplace.co.uk" <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk>
To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] 14%
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Well, that is generous of you, given what they have said about
rebalancing the differential between long established ST holders and
the new purchasers.
I think it’s a grift. And I think it says, fuck off if you don’t like
it cos someone else will pay it (which is what you said but you were
more polite)… as with those SM posts from fans having to “prove” they
attended games when the club is saying they didn’t and therefore trying
to prevent them from renewing.
They don’t want fans who don’t go to the shop and buy overpriced food.
Leeds not alone in this of course.
But they want the atmosphere… oh the dilemma.
Nick
Sent from my iPad
On 9 Apr 2025, at 18:18, Paul Cundell <p...@cundell.com> wrote:
I guess that's supply and demand - they've a 25k waiting list for STs -
if we won't pay it, someone else will
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, 17:30 Nick Allen, <[1]n...@6haroldplace.co.uk>
wrote:
That’s what my ST will go up by, to £632 this coming season,
whichever division.
With a note to say “thanks for sticking with us”
Nick
References
1. mailto:n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 12:54:03 +0800
From: David Komadina <david...@gmail.com>
To: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Two things
Message-ID:
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Actually it was mufc.com, I know because it's on my CLICK HERE IF YOU HATE
MAN U mouse mat which I still use.
On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 at 03:08, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net> wrote:
> Somewhere I have the letter from the Scum solicitors telling us to stop
> plus I had a visit by some wifey from Consumer Protection in Dingwall
> after someone grassed us up
>
> I will look them out...
>
> Betty
>
> On 07/04/2025 18:59, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Seeing John's post about BDTR reminded me of the yarn of the greatest
> heist in Web History, when the web domain for Man Utd Football Club,
> www.mufc.co.uk, was the legally obtained possession of LeedsListers,
> until the domain police forced the handover to the yobs at Old Trafford.
> >
> > Does anybody know the real history, and willing to depart a brief
> paragraph or three about the story, which I believe will also reveal the
> real history behind the "Better Dead Than Red" (BDTR) mousemats?
> >
> > Everlasting Thanks in anticipation to anyone willing to indulge me, and
> for those not in the know 😊
> >
> > OzPete
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be
> waiting for you with the Celestial Lards R.I.P.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 07:50:01 +0100
From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
To: David Komadina <david...@gmail.com>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Two things
Message-ID: <e43a4d32-6946-4098-8395-46562f527...@boocock.net>
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David is right it is mufc.com which of course is the Morpeth Unusual
Fishing Club (or at least that is what I told the lady from Dingwall)
ALAW
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 08:02:44 +0000
From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
To: Nick Allen <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk>, Leeds List
<leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] 14%
Message-ID:
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Mine has gone up 14% too.
It’s now just over £900 for my son (18) and I to renew.
I’ve been debating whether to renew ever since I saw the price.
I think I’m going to but I think this might be the last time.
I’ve not enjoyed it as much this last few seasons and I’m finding it harder
to justify the expense.
My lad is hoping to go away to uni (and will be full price after next
season) so it feels like a good time to call it quits.
Simon
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From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Nick Allen <
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Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 5:30:20 PM
To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: [LU] 14%
That’s what my ST will go up by, to £632 this coming season, whichever
division.
With a note to say “thanks for sticking with us”
Nick
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 10:23:59 +0100
From: "paul.tweney" <paul.twe...@ntlworld.com>
To: David Komadina <david...@gmail.com>, John Boocock
<j...@boocock.net>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Two things
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>
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It's on my "Sup up if you hate Man U" coaster as well. That's also in daily
use!MaverickSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: David Komadina <david...@gmail.com>
Date: 10/04/2025 05:54 (GMT+00:00) To: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Subject: Re: [LU] Two things Actually
it was mufc.com, I know because it's on my CLICK HERE IF YOU HATEMAN U
mouse mat which I still use.On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 at 03:08, John Boocock <
j...@boocock.net> wrote:> Somewhere I have the letter from the Scum
solicitors telling us to stop> plus I had a visit by some wifey from
Consumer Protection in Dingwall> after someone grassed us up>> I will look
them out...>> Betty>> On 07/04/2025 18:59, Peter Castlehouse wrote:> > Hi
all,> >> > Seeing John's post about BDTR reminded me of the yarn of the
greatest> heist in Web History, when the web domain for Man Utd Football
Club,> www.mufc.co.uk, was the legally obtained possession of
LeedsListers,> until the domain police forced the handover to the yobs at
Old Trafford.> >> > Does anybody know the real history, and willing to
depart a brief> paragraph or three about the story, which I believe will
also reveal the> real history behind the "Better Dead Than Red" (BDTR)
mousemats?> >> > Everlasting Thanks in anticipation to anyone willing to
indulge me, and> for those not in the know 😊> >> > OzPete>
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