You may be right that OpenWRT is doomed, but we have seen time and time again
that OpenSource software is not a zero-sum game.
Yes, if OpenWRT does nothing, it will struggle, but that's unlikely to be the
case.
For that matter, even with no new manpower, OpenWRT could just copy everything
th
I think David Lang makes a lot of sense; it took years to reach this
point, better to carry on independently, but working together as much as
can be managed, and let time both settle the dust and demonstrate which
ideas really pan out.
Add to this that with years of toxic arguments (as acknowledge
So is this on the list to be done ?
I am putting myself available to deploy, configure and perhaps add and
move some content into it.
If it´s the case whoever is looking after the infrastructure stuff may
contact me in private for arrangements.
Thanks
Fernando
On 5 May 2016 at 01:08, Kus wrote:
This is the mail, which was sent to the wrong list.
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 20:08:10 +0100
From: Daniel Golle
To: Daniel Dickinson
Cc: OpenWrt Development List
Subject: Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project
Hi Daniel,
I already merged lynxis series now that
On Thu, 5 May 2016 14:03:43 -0400
Daniel Dickinson wrote:
> If you're interested, I can send you examples of a full rebrand
> patchset (there are *quite* a few places to change, and this patchset
> doesn't get them all) which I used in a "Don't blame OpenWrt"
> patchset I created when I forked (a
Hi,
The post of the patch for rebranding is stuck waiting for admin approval
because it's >40 KB (it's a little larger than 90 KB). I think 40 KB is
a pretty low limit for a list which accepts patches and bug reports
(including relevant data).
Regards,
Daniel
__
On Fri, 6 May 2016, Vittorio G (VittGam) wrote:
On 05/05/2016 21:30:56 CEST, David Lang wrote:
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Vittorio G (VittGam) wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to know if there are any plans for Chaos Calmer?
Will it become mantained by LEDE?
almost certinly not. But LEDE will create thei
On 05/05/2016 21:30:56 CEST, David Lang wrote:
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Vittorio G (VittGam) wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to know if there are any plans for Chaos Calmer?
Will it become mantained by LEDE?
almost certinly not. But LEDE will create their own release to replace it.
Okay, it would be gr
The following patch is meant to be primarily information rather than
directly committed. I fairly mindlessly did a search and replace
in my own fork, which is SF but not advertised as it's really too early
to be meaningful (so as to avoid my users from potentially blaming
openwrt for my problems a
> "JoW" == Jo-Philipp Wich writes:
JoW> Dear Konstantin, thank you for the offer, I've put it on the agenda
JoW> for the next meeting.
JoW> Personally I'd very much like to host the wiki and mirrors at
JoW> *.kernel.org.
Also, consider osuosl.org, which used to host (maybe still does)
kerne
On 16-05-05 07:13 PM, Ted Hess wrote:
> Ha! As a veteran top-poster and victim of Windows Live Mail when I
> respond sometimes, I take exception to your statement below. Of course,
Heh, I forgot about that (although Live Mail? They still have that?).
I hate having to Outlook for the same reason
Ha! As a veteran top-poster and victim of Windows Live Mail when I respond sometimes, I take exception to your statement below. Of
course, when I am using that slick *ix mail apps, I can look like the rest of you folks.
I guess all these years in the industry being a top-poster makes me clueles
Forwarded Message
Subject:Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 15:29:47 -0700
From: Bill
To: Daniel Curran-Dickinson
Daniel-
No, of course not - please do.
I assumed, at least for the moment, the folks on LEDE are reading
On 05/05/2016 10:03 PM, Bert Vermeulen wrote:
> On 05/05/2016 04:09 PM, Hauke Mehrtens wrote:
>> I think we should encourage everyone to upstream the patches, I think in
>> one of the statics I saw that OpenWrt ranked 3. or 4. in contribution to
>> the kernel among the Linux distributions before Ca
I have been following the OpenWrt list for a while now and have been
active with OpenWrt for my own internal use since 2013. I have wanted
to become publicly active with open source embedded Linux for a while
but have not been able to figure out how to do so.
I initially thought this OpenWrt
On 2016-05-05 20:22, mbm wrote:
> On 5/5/2016 7:40 AM, Felix Fietkau wrote:
>> Many of the changes that we previously tried to introduce were often
>> squashed by internal disagreements. Resulting discussions often turned
>> toxic quickly and led to nothing being done to address the issues.
>> S
On 05/05/2016 04:09 PM, Hauke Mehrtens wrote:
I think we should encourage everyone to upstream the patches, I think in
one of the statics I saw that OpenWrt ranked 3. or 4. in contribution to
the kernel among the Linux distributions before Canonical. ;-)
Encourage is just a word. Nobody in Open
David Lang - 10:41 5.05.16 wrote:
> On Thu, 5 May 2016, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
>
> > David Lang - 18:20 4.05.16 wrote:
> > > Debian has ...
> >
> > Just for the sake of discussion and inspiration, how openSUSE does it's
> > rolling
> > release. We have OBS, which is server software, connected
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Vittorio G (VittGam) wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to know if there are any plans for Chaos Calmer?
Will it become mantained by LEDE?
almost certinly not. But LEDE will create their own release to replace it.
remember that part of maintaining a release is making updates to it a
Sorry for the duplicates.
I set up a new email identity for the LEDE list but Thunderbird doesn't
always pick the right one, so mail gets 'waiting for approval', which I
normally try to cancel and send from the right email address.
Regards,
Daniel
___
On 16-05-05 01:57 PM, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
>> Basically one builds a minimal SDK and does kind of like Debian where a
>> git commit to a package kicks of a build of pristine environment which
>> builds only the package and it's dependencies.
>
> I've set up a two-phase buildbot i
On 16-05-05 01:57 PM, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
>> Basically one builds a minimal SDK and does kind of like Debian where a
>> git commit to a package kicks of a build of pristine environment which
>> builds only the package and it's dependencies.
>
> I've set up a two-phase buildbot i
Hello,
I'd like to know if there are any plans for Chaos Calmer?
Will it become mantained by LEDE?
Trunk introduces important changes, for example the switch from uClibc to
musl, so until everything's polished and ready for release I'd rather not
use trunk on "production" devices, like the main
Dear Konstantin,
thank you for the offer, I've put it on the agenda for the next meeting.
Personally I'd very much like to host the wiki and mirrors at *.kernel.org.
~ Jo
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If you're interested, I can send you examples of a full rebrand patchset
(there are *quite* a few places to change, and this patchset doesn't get
them all) which I used in a "Don't blame OpenWrt" patchset I created
when I forked (although never publicly announced as wasn't entirely
convinced of the
On 05/05/2016 07:43 PM, David Lang wrote:
> On Thu, 5 May 2016, Ben Greear wrote:
>
>> On 05/05/2016 07:30 AM, Kus wrote:
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> Hash: SHA512
>>>
>>> Hi Ben,
>>>
>>> Just to be clear. We're talking about signing git commits, not emails. I
>>> apologize for my ug
On 16-05-05 01:37 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 13:23 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
>> Basically the only people for whom your claim "it's easy to add" is
>> actually true is people for whom it's not *that* much harder to
>> remove what they don't want.
>
> In practice though
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Matthias Schiffer wrote:
On 05/05/2016 07:43 PM, David Lang wrote:
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Ben Greear wrote:
On 05/05/2016 07:30 AM, Kus wrote:
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Hi Ben,
Just to be clear. We're talking about signing git commits, not emails. I
a
Given that many people strongly prefer web forums, I assume that LEDE is going
to set them up at some point.
I would like to get a request in early that the web forms that get setup be
cross-connected with mailing lists. Not just for 'something new has happened'
the way the OpenWRT forms are,
Hi Daniel,
> Basically one builds a minimal SDK and does kind of like Debian where a
> git commit to a package kicks of a build of pristine environment which
> builds only the package and it's dependencies.
I've set up a two-phase buildbot infrastructure which first builds the
SDK for each target
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Kus wrote:
My original thought was to allow us to grant many people commit access.
This is a good policy question to bring up.
Linux Kernel, with MANY more contributers than OpenWRT/LEDE has one person with
commit access.
Admittedly, Linus is paid to do kernel work ful
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Ben Greear wrote:
On 05/05/2016 07:30 AM, Kus wrote:
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Hash: SHA512
Hi Ben,
Just to be clear. We're talking about signing git commits, not emails. I
apologize for my ugly emails though.
I don't want to sign those either. Signed-off-by a
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
David Lang - 18:20 4.05.16 wrote:
Debian has ...
Just for the sake of discussion and inspiration, how openSUSE does it's rolling
release. We have OBS, which is server software, connected to multiple builders.
It has projects and in those projects pa
Signed-off-by: Alexander Couzens
---
target/sdk/Config.in| 4 ++--
target/sdk/files/README.SDK | 4 ++--
2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
diff --git a/target/sdk/Config.in b/target/sdk/Config.in
index 28c6f3e..df25329 100644
--- a/target/sdk/Config.in
+++ b/target/sdk/Con
On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 13:23 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
> Basically the only people for whom your claim "it's easy to add" is
> actually true is people for whom it's not *that* much harder to
> remove what they don't want.
In practice though, what happens is the more technically advanced users
Signed-off-by: Alexander Couzens
---
target/toolchain/Config.in | 6 +++---
target/toolchain/files/README.TOOLCHAIN | 2 +-
2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
diff --git a/target/toolchain/Config.in b/target/toolchain/Config.in
index 5a6ecef..e377c20 100644
--- a/targe
Signed-off-by: Alexander Couzens
---
target/imagebuilder/Config.in | 2 +-
target/imagebuilder/files/repositories.conf | 2 +-
2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/target/imagebuilder/Config.in b/target/imagebuilder/Config.in
index 1bc4533..245c715 100644
-
On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 13:22 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
> Hey, in future could you please not top-post? It's bad form on a
> technical list. While I'd hate see this become one of those
> self-righteous snob communities that use rude and antagonistic in
> response to things like top-posting, le
Hey, in future could you please not top-post? It's bad form on a
technical list. While I'd hate see this become one of those
self-righteous snob communities that use rude and antagonistic in
response to things like top-posting, letting people know that that
top-post is inappropriate is something
On 05/05/2016 13:17, Bruno Randolf wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 05/05/16 11:05, John Crispin wrote:
>>> We could also try to integrate this with some automated testing.
>
> Some automated way to do testing and submit the results would definetly
> be good and preferable to a form-based webpage. Of course
On 16-05-05 01:17 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Again, just personal anecdotal data. But again, it's a down-side that
> it's fairly hard for recipients to *avoid* (it's distinctly non-trivial
> to remove even the one list-noise, let alone when it's cross-posted and
> gains others), while it's relat
On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 14:12 -0300, Fernando Frediani wrote:
> Come on. It´s not a big thing and it helps some people to organize
> their mailboxes in the way they prefer.
> We are talking about just 10 extra characters !
You are right. It isn't a big thing. It's just 10 extra characters.
But some
Well, it reminds some discussions about "what text editor is better?".
Nobody will convince anybody.
Exactly, it is not a clear win to avoid it.
Is it a "old-style" thing ? Maybe, but it is something real and used
of the majority of lists which people are used with and doesn't cause
any critical d
On 16-05-05 11:23 AM, Fernando Frediani wrote:
> Quick question to those who don't like the idea of having a prefix in
> the subject: Is this a big deal ?
> Cannot this be compromised in favour of having this enabled for those
> who need it for the reasons justified in previous messages ?
For me t
On 05/05/2016 06:15 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> But I'd observe that it's easier for people to *add* this nonsense on
> the client side of they really want it, than it is to *remove* it
> again. You're basically penalising those who *do* set up their mail
> clients optimally, for the benefit of th
On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 12:23 -0300, Fernando Frediani wrote:
> Quick question to those who don't like the idea of having a prefix in
> the subject: Is this a big deal ?
Nothing's really a "big deal". Life's too short to claim that.
If I see messages where the subject appears to be 'lede-dev', when
Quick question to those who don't like the idea of having a prefix in
the subject: Is this a big deal ?
Cannot this be compromised in favour of having this enabled for those
who need it for the reasons justified in previous messages ?
Thanks
Fernando
On 5 May 2016 at 05:37, David Lang wrote:
> O
Hi Mike,
thank you for reaching out to us and for your interest in addressing
these issues.
On 2016-05-04 21:01, mbm wrote:
> Dear OpenWrt community,
>
> It is with a great amount of surprise that, like all of you, we read
> about the announcement of the LEDE project yesterday, as there was no
On 05/05/2016 07:30 AM, Kus wrote:
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Hash: SHA512
Hi Ben,
Just to be clear. We're talking about signing git commits, not emails. I
apologize for my ugly emails though.
I don't want to sign those either. Signed-off-by and the actual code to read
(and revert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512
Hi Ben,
Just to be clear. We're talking about signing git commits, not emails. I
apologize for my ugly emails though.
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Version: APG v1.1.1
iQJRBAEBCgA7BQJXK1jsNBxLdXNoYWwgSGFkYSAoZGV2ZWxvcGVyKSA8a3VzaGFs
ZGV2ZWxvcGVyQG
On 05/05/2016 07:06 AM, Kus wrote:
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My original thought was to allow us to grant many people commit access.
Signing commits won't solve everything. There are other, arguably more
important things, to do like code reviews and automated unit as we
Hello:
It sounds like this project would be a good candidate for CII support
(see https://www.coreinfrastructure.org/grants). The state of security
on consumer-grade wireless routers is overall very poor, and I believe
you will have no trouble getting CII to offer support in getting some
additiona
On 05/04/2016 11:49 PM, Vittorio G (VittGam) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 04/05/2016 22:30:40 CEST, Bert Vermeulen wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Very happy to see this project reboot happening. An acknowledgement of
>> the issues facing OpenWRT was long overdue. I'd like some clarity on
>> some things that aren'
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My original thought was to allow us to grant many people commit access.
Signing commits won't solve everything. There are other, arguably more
important things, to do like code reviews and automated unit as well as device
tests as well as manual t
> It kinda makes sense, although it would be even nicer if the tests
> were automated as well. That is something that Purple is working on.
> There is a BoardFarm[1] test framework that is designed to test
> routers and there could be created test suites that reflects some of
> the criteria you des
On 05/04/2016 11:38 PM, Kus wrote:
> Greetings
>
> I'd like to propose that all commits (at least to master) going forward be
> signed with the commiter's gpg key.
>
> https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Signing-Your-Work
>
> Thoughts?
If we would add signed commits, it should be optional
The patch made sure the ncursesw library was not selected to save space,
but that library doesn't exist in this distribution at all.
Signed-off-by: Bert Vermeulen
---
package/network/utils/iftop/Makefile | 4 ++--
package/network/utils/iftop/patches/0001-force-ncurses.pa
+1 for a [lede-dev] and [lede-adm] tag.
- Original Message -
From: "David Woodhouse"
To: "Hannu Nyman" , lede-dev@lists.infradead.org
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 5:02:01 AM
Subject: Re: List subject prefix?
On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 10:23 +0300, Hannu Nyman wrote:
> On 5.5.2016 9:59, David W
Isn't the 'default' busybox prompt just a #
Although the 'default' prompt on OpenWrt is 'monocolor'
My point here is that the 'default' prompt should be '#'
Not that of the 'OpenWrt team'.
The 'ls' command has been 'colorized' for quite some time.
Personally I find it quite useful...and less
Hi,
On 05/05/16 11:05, John Crispin wrote:
>> We could also try to integrate this with some automated testing.
Some automated way to do testing and submit the results would definetly
be good and preferable to a form-based webpage. Of course basic stuff
like "boots", "wifi worked", "leds worked" r
This patch introduces serial0 aliases in the ramips DTS files, which can
then be used to denote the active console instead of relying on bootargs.
Signed-off-by: Stanislav Galabov
---
target/linux/ramips/dts/LINKIT7688.dts | 4
target/linux/ramips/dts/mt7620a.dtsi | 3 ++-
target/linux/ra
On 2016-05-05 04:54, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Could you let Felix know I wanted to apologize to him for getting upset
> previously on the openwrt list, because of situations he is obviously
> also frustrated with?
>
> I can't reach him because n...@openwrt.org bounces and I don't have a
On 05/05/2016 11:47, Hauke Mehrtens wrote:
> On 05/05/2016 08:56 AM, John Crispin wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It would be nice if there was a process in place that would allow
>> community members to easily be able to test images on devices and report
>> the results some place. after some time thinking o
On 05/05/2016 08:56 AM, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It would be nice if there was a process in place that would allow
> community members to easily be able to test images on devices and report
> the results some place. after some time thinking of different ways to do
> this I came up with one po
On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 01:37 -0700, David Lang wrote:
>
> > can this be turned on by subscribers manually for their subscription or
> > is there only one global option ? for the list ?
>
> I'm pretty sure it's a list-wide option.
Indeed. There are plenty of things that individual subscribers can
On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 10:23 +0300, Hannu Nyman wrote:
> On 5.5.2016 9:59, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > It's the Mailman default, but it is deliberately disabled on this list
> > (as on many other technical lists where the members are expected to be
> > able to drive their email client properly).
>
>
On Thu, 5 May 2016, John Crispin wrote:
On 05/05/2016 10:14, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 08:13 +0200, John Crispin wrote:
Hi David,
some folks would prefer to have the prefix on the 2 lists. I just had a
look in the mailman settings and failed to quickly spot the location
wh
David Lang - 18:20 4.05.16 wrote:
> Debian has ...
Just for the sake of discussion and inspiration, how openSUSE does it's rolling
release. We have OBS, which is server software, connected to multiple builders.
It has projects and in those projects packages. Packages can have sources
somewhere in
On 05/05/2016 10:14, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 08:13 +0200, John Crispin wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> some folks would prefer to have the prefix on the 2 lists. I just had a
>> look in the mailman settings and failed to quickly spot the location
>> where this can be achieved.
On Thu, 2016-05-05 at 08:13 +0200, John Crispin wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> some folks would prefer to have the prefix on the 2 lists. I just had a
> look in the mailman settings and failed to quickly spot the location
> where this can be achieved.
Ick, they really ought to be able to handle that l
John Crispin - 9:39 5.05.16 wrote:
>
>
> On 05/05/2016 09:10, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
> > John Crispin - 8:56 5.05.16 wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> It would be nice if there was a process in place that would allow
> >> community members to easily be able to test images on devices and report
> >> t
On 05/05/2016 09:10, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
> John Crispin - 8:56 5.05.16 wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It would be nice if there was a process in place that would allow
>> community members to easily be able to test images on devices and report
>> the results some place. after some time thinking of diff
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
John Crispin - 8:56 5.05.16 wrote:
Hi,
It would be nice if there was a process in place that would allow
community members to easily be able to test images on devices and report
the results some place. after some time thinking of different ways to d
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Hash: SHA512
On 05.05.16 10:08, David Lang wrote:
> In an environment where the vast majority of people are unknown,
> and any signing they are doing involves no liability, and no
> assurance that the person is who they claim to be (other than
> claiming to be
On 5.5.2016 9:59, David Woodhouse wrote:
It's the Mailman default, but it is deliberately disabled on this list
(as on many other technical lists where the members are expected to be
able to drive their email client properly).
That sounds pretty funny on 2010s when most of us use multiple devic
Fully agree with David Lang's points.
+1 for prefix
Fernando
On 5 May 2016 at 02:36, David Lang wrote:
> On Thu, 5 May 2016, John Crispin wrote:
>
>> On 04/05/2016 23:31, Aaron Z wrote:
>>>
>>> On many (most?) mailing lists, there is a prefix on all subjects which
>>> has the list name (such as
John Crispin - 8:56 5.05.16 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It would be nice if there was a process in place that would allow
> community members to easily be able to test images on devices and report
> the results some place. after some time thinking of different ways to do
> this I came up with one possible
On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 17:31 -0400, Aaron Z wrote:
> On many (most?) mailing lists, there is a prefix on all subjects
> which has the list name (such as [OpenWRT-Devel])
> Can this prefix be added for this list (or is that an option that I
> missed when I signed up)?
It's the Mailman default, but i
On Thu, 5 May 2016, John Crispin wrote:
Other than as a gee-wiz we-can-do-that, what's the actual value provided
by the signatures?
i dont plan to get into a discussion about why signing and crypto in
general is useful.
apart from that, its a feature widely adopted by others, git does not
hav
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