Re: [lazarus] Search engine for Lazarus and Free Pascal concerned stuff

2007-11-24 Thread Sam Liddicott
Al Boldi wrote: Sam Liddicott wrote: Tom Gregorovic wrote: Hi, it crossed my mind that it would be convenient to have one search service for all the information about Lazarus and Free Pascal, which are in forums, mail list archives, documentation reference, wiki, Mantis, SVN repository,

Re: [lazarus]

2007-11-24 Thread Razvan Adrian Bogdan
On Nov 24, 2007 8:47 AM, Vincent Snijders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vasily I. Volchenko schreef: > > And lazarus team is trying to force UTF8 introduction with a revolution > > without supporting neither old project nor saving files (and only saving) > > in compartible with other projects form

Re: [lazarus]

2007-11-24 Thread Razvan Adrian Bogdan
What's the problem with WideStrings in Delphi: http://tobias.feedian.com/2007/05/24/whats-wrong-with-delphis-widestring/ http://delphi.about.com/od/beginners/l/aa071800a.htm Razvan _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Re[2]: [lazarus]

2007-11-24 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Nov 24, 2007 7:33 AM, Vasily I. Volchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > UTF8 might be good in the case of international texts mostly English. You say > that pascal program > is such a text, and I would agree with you. But we are living in a real > world, with a tons of text > files. LCL intern

[lazarus] Ideas about Delphi's Roadmap

2007-11-24 Thread Razvan Adrian Bogdan
I just noticed the CodeGear roadmap and thought it would be nice to see what they are planning to do so we keep somewhat close to Delphi's improvements, they don't plan 64 bit support and CrossPlatform compilation until 2009 at least but they do plan to switch to Unicode, how will this be compatibl

Re: [lazarus] Search engine for Lazarus and Free Pascal concerned stuff

2007-11-24 Thread Al Boldi
Sam Liddicott wrote: > Al Boldi wrote: > > Sam Liddicott wrote: > >> I recommend xapian; www.xapian.org > >> > >> I've worked on it, I've used it and I've followed it's progress and > >> when I worked at Orange we hired one of the developers to enhance it. > >> > >> It is based on a once-commercial

Re: [lazarus] Ideas about Delphi's Roadmap

2007-11-24 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi Razvan, > I just noticed the CodeGear roadmap and thought it would be nice to > see what they are planning to do so we keep somewhat close to Delphi's Funny you mention it. I was thinking in similar lines. FPC and Lazarus main goals was and still is (as far as I know) to be Delphi compatible

Re: [lazarus] Ideas about Delphi's Roadmap

2007-11-24 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:45:12 +0200 "Razvan Adrian Bogdan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just noticed the CodeGear roadmap and thought it would be nice to > see what they are planning to do so we keep somewhat close to Delphi's > improvements, they don't plan 64 bit support and CrossPlatform > com

Re: [lazarus] Ideas about Delphi's Roadmap

2007-11-24 Thread willem
Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:45:12 +0200 "Razvan Adrian Bogdan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just noticed the CodeGear roadmap and thought it would be nice to see what they are planning to do so we keep somewhat close to Delphi's improvements, they don't plan 64 bit support

[lazarus] Program Execute

2007-11-24 Thread SteveG
Anybody know of a way to use TProcess to call the default program in WinXP ? - eg call for test.pdf to be opened, and it opens it with Acrobat (or currently assigned program). I know that ShellExecute manages this, but trying to keep everything cross platform. If not TProcess, any other meth

Re: [lazarus] Program Execute

2007-11-24 Thread Sergei Gorelkin
SteveG wrote: Anybody know of a way to use TProcess to call the default program in WinXP ? - eg call for test.pdf to be opened, and it opens it with Acrobat (or currently assigned program). I know that ShellExecute manages this, but trying to keep everything cross platform. Under Windows, y

Re: [lazarus] Program Execute

2007-11-24 Thread SteveG
This does the job for now though - Thanks Sergei Sergei Gorelkin wrote: SteveG wrote: Anybody know of a way to use TProcess to call the default program in WinXP ? - eg call for test.pdf to be opened, and it opens it with Acrobat (or currently assigned program). I know that ShellExecute man

Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)

2007-11-24 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 12:56:21AM +0100, willem wrote: > Marco van de Voort wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 07:52:59PM +0100, willem wrote: >> >>> I know that the lazarus grammar is based on yacc >>> > > I did some google search on the fpc > I do know that google searches results are no

Re[4]: [lazarus]

2007-11-24 Thread Vasily I. Volchenko
> LCL internal encoding is not the same thing as source code encoding > which is not the same things as arbitrary text data used by your > application. > Of course. There are: 1. LCL internal encoding (encoding of LCL sources), 2. Lazarus IDE internal encoding, 3. encoding of .po files, 4. Syn

[lazarus]: utf8 or not necessury?

2007-11-24 Thread Vasily I. Volchenko
> > Vasily I. Volchenko schreef: > > And lazarus team is trying to force UTF8 introduction with a revolution > > without supporting neither old project nor saving files (and only saving) > > in compartible with other projects format. Besides, that revolutionary > > process begins when the othe

Re: [lazarus] Ideas about Delphi's Roadmap

2007-11-24 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 24/11/2007, Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My guess. Nobody knows, not even Codegear. > They've become more and more dependent on marketing rather than on sound > technical strategies. Yeah, I'm so glad our company decided to move over to Free Pascal. CodeGear looks like it is go

Re: [lazarus] Ideas about Delphi's Roadmap

2007-11-24 Thread Giuliano Colla
Mattias Gaertner ha scritto: On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:45:12 +0200 "Razvan Adrian Bogdan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does someone know, *how* Codegear will change the VCL to support unicode? My guess. Nobody knows, not even Codegear. They've become more and more dependent on marketing rather tha

Re: [lazarus]: utf8 or not necessury?

2007-11-24 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:58:12 +0300 "Vasily I. Volchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Vasily I. Volchenko schreef: > > > And lazarus team is trying to force UTF8 introduction with a > > > revolution without supporting neither old project nor saving > > > files (and only saving) in compar

[lazarus]: utf8 or not necessury?

2007-11-24 Thread Vasily I. Volchenko
> did you notice > Office applications also use Unicode for storage and nobody seems to > complain about it OK, office applications do so. It was some (or it is better to say - a lot of) problems with them, so when MSOffice 97 was introduced, most people had it with an old office. And these probl

Re: Re[4]: [lazarus]

2007-11-24 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Nov 24, 2007 3:58 PM, Vasily I. Volchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 6. current source encoding, The source code encoding will be (more or less) irrelevant when this feature is implemented: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=9305 > Especially it is bad for 7, when it is known that

Re: [lazarus]: utf8 or not necessury?

2007-11-24 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:29:48 +0300 "Vasily I. Volchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > did you notice > > Office applications also use Unicode for storage and nobody seems to > > complain about it > OK, office applications do so. It was some (or it is better to say - > a lot of) problems with the

Re: [lazarus] Ideas about Delphi's Roadmap

2007-11-24 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Nov 24, 2007 12:24 PM, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does someone know, *how* Codegear will change the VCL to support > unicode? Yes, I'm one step ahead of you guys =) I already posted many questions about this on delphi.non-tech and studied the situation. They will do: Char =

Re: [lazarus] Ideas about Delphi's Roadmap

2007-11-24 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Nov 24, 2007 12:18 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So yes, you asked a good question? Where does FPC and Lazarus stand, > if CodeGear starts implementing things FPC and Lazarus already has, > but their design is very different. WideString compared to UTF-8 is > one such case,

Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)

2007-11-24 Thread willem
Marco van de Voort wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 12:56:21AM +0100, willem wrote: Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 07:52:59PM +0100, willem wrote: I know that the lazarus grammar is based on yacc I did some google search on the fpc I do know th

Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)

2007-11-24 Thread Vincent Snijders
willem schreef: _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives

Re: Re: [lazarus]: utf8 or not necessury?

2007-11-24 Thread Vasily I. Volchenko
I said not just about text files in IDE (it is not really interesting), but about pascal project files. Where to store encoding? It is a good question. The easiest way is to add a string to the .lpi file which either contains the locale of all the project (but it is not so easy to completely con

Re: Re: [lazarus]: utf8 or not necessury?

2007-11-24 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Nov 24, 2007 5:24 PM, Vasily I. Volchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I said not just about text files in IDE (it is not really interesting), but > about pascal project files. Where to store encoding? How to store the encoding is something well stablished by international standards: http://e

Re: [lazarus] Ideas about Delphi's Roadmap

2007-11-24 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 24/11/2007, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem will be that any code written to depend on string = > widestring won't work on fpc, and the same for char=widechar > So based on that statement, I gather Delphi project compatibly stops there. Unless I guess FPC

Re[6]: [lazarus]

2007-11-24 Thread Vasily I. Volchenko
> Use a text editor with multiple encoding support like Notepad++ > > Open the file on a encoding and save it on another. Done. > Good. It is a "very convenient", especially if project contains many files. > A trivial pascal app can be built to automate that if you have many files. > Of course,

Re: [lazarus] Ideas about Delphi's Roadmap

2007-11-24 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Nov 24, 2007 5:34 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So based on that statement, I gather Delphi project compatibly stops there. It's not that it stops. You can still make an application that works with both. However if you make an app that depends on those details it won't wor

Re: Re: Re: [lazarus]: utf8 or not necessury?

2007-11-24 Thread Vasily I. Volchenko
This is only about unicode text files. Can you imagine that BOM will be in a text file given to pascal compiler? _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject archives at http://ww

Re: Re: Re: [lazarus]: utf8 or not necessury?

2007-11-24 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Nov 24, 2007 5:49 PM, Vasily I. Volchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is only about unicode text files. Can you imagine that BOM will be in a > text file given to pascal compiler? A source code is a text file. Free Pascal is already prepared to handle source code including a BOM marker.

Re: [lazarus] Buffer Overflow

2007-11-24 Thread Jeff Steinkamp
- Original Message - From: "Jesus Reyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 20:11 Subject: Re: [lazarus] Buffer Overflow --- Jeff Steinkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: I just rebuilt Lazarus with SVN 12973 on my Linux box with GTK2 and upon restart I got a

Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :

2007-11-24 Thread willem
haha none of course vincent. kind regards _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives

Re[2]: [lazarus]: utf8 or not necessury?

2007-11-24 Thread Vasily I. Volchenko
> About autoconversion: > > Changing the encoding of text files is pretty easy. For example: use > the 'recode' tool. An alternative would be to extend the IDE to > load/save files of other encodings and extend the compiler to auto > convert the strings. > After that you must check all places, whe

Re: Re[6]: [lazarus]

2007-11-24 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Nov 24, 2007 5:39 PM, Vasily I. Volchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, I did it. See attachment. But don't you really think that this > should be done by the means of Lazarus? If lazarus contains project convertor. I also think it's a great idea. Please read: http://wiki.lazarus.fr

[lazarus] Serial Comm Support Windows

2007-11-24 Thread Jeff Steinkamp
I know there is a serial unit for Linux/Unix, but is there similar support for serial communications for the Windows Platform? Jeff Steinkamp - N7YG Tucson, AZ SCUD Missile Coordinates N32-13-55.01 W110-50-51.91 http://n7yg.net http://home.earthlink.net/~jksteinkamp Linux User #420428 Skype : j

Re: [lazarus]: utf8 or not necessury?

2007-11-24 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:58:54 +0300 "Vasily I. Volchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > About autoconversion: > > > > Changing the encoding of text files is pretty easy. For example: use > > the 'recode' tool. An alternative would be to extend the IDE to > > load/save files of other encodings and

Re: [Lazarus] Error compiling lazarus

2007-11-24 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:14:30 +0100 Antonio Talamini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Somebody has this error compiling Lazarus? > > Compiling /usr/lib/lazarus/components/tachart/taseries.pas > Compiling /usr/lib/lazarus/components/tachart/tagraph.pas > Compiling /usr/lib/lazarus/components/tachart/ta

[lazarus] Non UTF-8 Encodings

2007-11-24 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Goal: - IDE should load/save text files in non UTF-8 encodings. - The IDE is compiled with UTF-8 LCL, so all internal functions expects this. - It is not sufficient to change synedit, because text is often copied between synedit and other tools. And there many other IDE tools reading/editing text

Re: [lazarus] Enhanced TODO list patch

2007-11-24 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 18:30:33 +0100 "Gerard N/A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, I have the .inc thing fixed, as long as it is in the project's > directory. Thanks. Applied. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: [lazarus] Serial Comm Support Windows

2007-11-24 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Samstag, den 24.11.2007, 12:39 -0700 schrieb Jeff Steinkamp: > I know there is a serial unit for Linux/Unix, but is there similar > support for serial communications for the Windows Platform? Someone posted a unit for win32 lately. If it is not in the sources yet you may find it searching the

[lazarus] Bugs in pnm, pbm and ppm loader

2007-11-24 Thread wile64
Hi, I saw that there were some bugs to load images ;) There are images to test in the directory GIMP-2.0\share\gimp\2.0\gimpressionist\Brushes Regards, -- Laurent. My Components: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Wile64 French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php fpreadpnm.

Re: [lazarus] Serial Comm Support Windows

2007-11-24 Thread Stephano
Jeff Steinkamp wrote: I know there is a serial unit for Linux/Unix, but is there similar support for serial communications for the Windows Platform? http://www.luisdigital.com/programacion/fpc/serial.pp _ To unsubscribe: mai

Re: [lazarus] Serial Comm Support Windows

2007-11-24 Thread Sebastian Günther
Jeff Steinkamp schrieb: I know there is a serial unit for Linux/Unix, but is there similar support for serial communications for the Windows Platform? I have a port of my original Unix serial unit (the one which has been included in FPC years ago) for Windows; it has even are more OOP-like in

Re: [lazarus] Serial Comm Support Windows

2007-11-24 Thread Jeff Steinkamp
- Original Message - From: "Stephano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 16:45 Subject: Re: [lazarus] Serial Comm Support Windows Jeff Steinkamp wrote: I know there is a serial unit for Linux/Unix, but is there similar support for serial communications for th

Re: [lazarus] Non UTF-8 Encodings

2007-11-24 Thread Vasily I. Volchenko
My lconv.pas can use libc because this unit was added by someone else (in LCL), I have fixed only working swich combination. It must work without it. Anyway, lconv.pas is a bad workaround, presently it fit my purposes, but not others. _