KR>Re: ZS-UKU

2021-11-07 Thread Rudi Venter
Just a note on the Sakkie Halgreen crash. It was not in ZS-UKU but a different plane! UKU was not involved in a crash. The plane Sakkie crashed in crashed due to a balance weight bolted to the prop hub coming off and breaking the prop. Due to the now rearward CG the plane entered a flat spin.

KR>ZS-UKU

2021-11-07 Thread MS
Just got a note from a friend who knows the pilots and planes involved and this is his comment.  He's in the UK currently and the crash was in RSA so he doesn't have anything more current that what he says here.  "Yeah, knew Nevil well. He had an Extra and was doing well but I think hard times

KR>Re: Dr. Feng Hsu Concerns

2021-11-07 Thread Mark Langford
Let's back up and take a deep breath here. So far we know of exactly ONE critical structural failure that's resulted in a KR crash, and there's clear evidence of serious aerobatics being done in that plane, certainly recently before the crash, and likely just prior. That photo that we've seen

KR>Re: Dr. Feng Hsu Concerns

2021-11-07 Thread Dr. Feng Hsu
I agree with you Victor, including view points of many others on this matter, such as that of Larry's and Chris's questions and comments etc... However, it may be worth exploring on the installation of a chute, whether it is a pilot strap-on or have it mounted somewhere to the aircraft structure.

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-07 Thread Randall Smith via KRnet
I have a 1947 Bellanca cruiseair 14-13-2. In 2000 I restore the airplane from the ground up. There were two patches on the wings from an accident that happened in the 1950s. We pull those two sheets off and inspected the wings from tip to tip. There was not a single flaw in either of those wings

KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-07 Thread Mark Wegmet
Yes, as noted in my comment on Mark L's comment (third paragraph, first line of my e-mail), clamp force for the WAFs is irrelevant for exactly the reason you have noted. Although the comment about "greater length ... than it will see in service" is not exactly what we need to see in the applica

KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-07 Thread jean paul GLOTIN
Le dim. 7 nov. 2021 à 16:21, jean paul GLOTIN a écrit : > > Le dim. 7 nov. 2021 à 16:17, jean paul GLOTIN > a écrit : > >> May .be this book could hello you >> >> Le sam. 6 nov. 2021 à 20:43, Chris Kinnaman a écrit : >> >>> What exactly do you mean by "strip"? The plastic/fiber in AN364 & AN365

KR>Re: crash Concerns

2021-11-07 Thread Chris Kinnaman
In any event the consensus seems to be that this is the first anyone within the KR community has heard of a spar failure in the center section. So far that makes it an anomaly, with no indication of any sort of trend. It's been said that "a pilot can pull the wings off any airplane that's ever

KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-07 Thread Flesner
On 11/7/2021 7:49 AM, Mark Wegmet wrote: Another way of looking at "torque" requirements at the basic engineering level of fasteners is to consider that it is a conversion of (unmeasurable) clamping force on a fastener to a (measurable) rotational force that considers the tensile strength and e

KR>crash Concerns

2021-11-07 Thread Flesner
On 11/7/2021 6:59 AM, victor taylor via KRnet wrote: In reference to Dr Feng's safety concerns here is a lot to consider. Keep in mind like Larry said that this is the first known wing failure of a KR in 30 years. +++

KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-07 Thread Mark Wegmet
Another way of looking at "torque" requirements at the basic engineering level of fasteners is to consider that it is a conversion of (unmeasurable) clamping force on a fastener to a (measurable) rotational force that considers the tensile strength and elongation under load of a material (i.e.,

KR>Dr. Feng Hsu Concerns

2021-11-07 Thread victor taylor via KRnet
In reference to Dr Feng's safety concerns here is a lot to consider. Keep in mind like Larry said that this is the first known wing failure of a KR in 30 years. Let's see, Piper Cherokee lost a wing on a checkride in Florida two years ago. Cessna 400 series and Beech 18 series both had to have s