KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-06 Thread Jeff Scott
> But I noticed that you can buy a 2# Halon unit just > right for for small planes like our KRs on Amazon for > $25 including a mounting > bracket that's perfect for > mounting it on the front of the spar just in front of > the seat. DJ was kind enough to point out that the Halon extinguishe

KR> Fwd: Halon

2015-04-06 Thread Bill Wood
Ok guys. I get it. All i know is that the info that i was given almost 20 years ago. We had to take our Halon systems out and chang them to another system in 6 facilities at a cost of $1. This is 20 year-old info. If there is new more accurate info out there i am more than willing to accep

KR> Halon

2015-04-06 Thread Bill Wood
Not sure what the laws are in the US but in Canada, Halon was pulled many years ago. It is one of the most efficient fire suppression systems around except for the fact the chemical reaction with fire creates a fatal poisonous gas. I don't think i would use it in my aircraft. Just my $0.02 wort

KR> Halon

2015-04-06 Thread Virgil N.Salisbury
Double check that info. Halon in buildings was safe to breathe while evacuating the building. DO NOT BE SMOKING THOUGH, Virg On 4/6/2015 5:56 PM, Bill Wood via KRnet wrote: > Not sure what the laws are in the US but in Canada, Halon was pulled many > years ago. It is one of

KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-06 Thread Jeff Scott
Our discussion last week about fueling, fuel handling, and consequences of mishandling caused me to take an objective look at some of the safety factors involved in my refueling. Overall, I think I follow good practices and do a pretty safe job. However, I also realized that I am woefully shor

KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-06 Thread bjoenunley
When the AH64 Apache would refuel we always had a fire extinguisher close by. Also a good idea for me. I will be keeping one handy for me during refueling operations on my airplanes.? Has anyone read NTSB reports about wood airplanes catching fire during refueling? Or know of any? The Apache h

KR> Halon

2015-04-06 Thread Chris Gardner
I'm using the RT A400 unit that Aircraft Spruce sells. Small but unfortunately not cheap. Currently $ 230 USD each but then worth every penny if I ever have a fire emergency in a wood aircraft full of fuel! Cheers Chris Sent from my iPad > On Apr 6, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Gary Ainsworth wrote: > >

KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 91

2015-04-06 Thread Steve Bray
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KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-06 Thread Dj Merrill
Unless you want IFR inside the cabin, you don't want to use a dry powder extinguisher. I've been told, but haven't confirmed, that the dry powder can cause corrosion, also not good in an aircraft. It is impossible to clean it all up, and you can't wash it away either since that just pushes i

KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-06 Thread Adam Tippin
For those that are unfamiliar with Fire Extinguisher Types??? Halon is designed to Consume all Oxygen in the area?.. I don?t know how wise it is to have in the cockpit with you. Personally I would suggest a dry chem. Extinguisher for electrical fires. Its more clean up but less chance of consumi

KR> Halon

2015-04-06 Thread Gary Ainsworth
Look in the engine bilge of most larger boats and you will find a self energizing halon extinguisher aboard...maybe two of them. I am curious if these cylinders are good/recognized for aircraft use. Some are large due to the volume of the installed engine(s) Most are small, weighing a couple of p

KR> Halon

2015-04-06 Thread Chris Gardner
Also details on Halon are here: http://www.municipalaffairs.alberta.ca/documents/ss/STANDATA/fire/Halon.pdf It is legal in aircraft applications only. Regards Chris G Sent from my iPad > On Apr 6, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Chris Gardner via KRnet > wrote: > > Are you sure on those facts about Halon

KR> Halon

2015-04-06 Thread Chris Gardner
Are you sure on those facts about Halon? Check out : H3rcleanagents.com. Site for Halon myths. No mention of poisonous gas ? Only that it was discontinued in 1994 because it is a CFC and depletes the ozone layer. I'm still using a Halon fire extinguisher in my a Canadian amateur built KR2. Chris

KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-06 Thread Patrick Driscoll
The US Air force uses Halon extinguishers and when I was in the reserves, I had Halon extinguishers in my print shop. When I needed to recharge them, The Air Force Fire unit would do it for me for free. They no longer do it due to the EPA claiming that Halon is not eco friendly, so the price of

KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-06 Thread Chris Kinnaman
ABC extinguishers will cause airframe-killing corrosion in aluminum airplanes. On 4/6/2015 5:32 PM, Dj Merrill via KRnet wrote: > Unless you want IFR inside the cabin, you don't want to use a dry powder > extinguisher. > > I've been told, but haven't confirmed, that the dry powder can cause > c

KR> Halon

2015-04-06 Thread Dave Acklam
Halon 1301 does turn toxic IF exposed to extreme temps and is thus not reced for class D (flammable metal) fires But if not being used on something like thermite or magnesium Its one of the safest room-flood fire suppressants out there. The bans are due to it being a CFC, not due to toxic

KR> KR for sale (retractable gear)

2015-04-06 Thread laser147 at juno.com
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KR> Collapsing Gear

2015-04-06 Thread Sid Wood
Best way to keep plans-built retractable gear from collapsing is convert to fixed gear. (Insurance companies like that also.) If you feel that converting is going to cost to much time and money, consider the time and cost of a new prop and rebuilding an engine. If you simply must keep the re