From: Dan Heath
To: 'KRnet'
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:06 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Weight Testing
That part is done, but that does not prove that it will fly correctly. I
would not put anyone in the passenger seat without knowing for sure that the
plane would operate properly with their w
Thank you. We have a large lake here where they practice diving. They may
even have something they could rent to me. That may be what I am looking for.
See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN ? 40th Anniversary
Ther
Yes, that is why I am so concerned about it. However, the way mine is set
up, it cannot get behind the seat. That does not mean that other bad things
could not happen unless it is secured at least as good as a passenger would
be.
I think it is a scary and dangerous situation.
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Robert GillHi, I have a question about the best way to surface and level the
ply fuse skins aft of the cockpit area without adding to much weight, the skins
have bowed inward up to 3/8" in some ares particularly just under the top
stringer, should I glass the skin first with deck cloth then us
That part is done, but that does not prove that it will fly correctly. I
would not put anyone in the passenger seat without knowing for sure that the
plane would operate properly with their weight in that seat.
See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you at the 2012 - KR G
I just looked at the pre-registration for the Gathering and see we only have 12
KR's committed to fly in so far and only 21 people total have registered. Come
on guys, what's up with that. We need 40 KR's minimum. Time is getting near as
we only have 228 days till the Gathering. It will be here
Just do it all on a set of scales without ever going flying. Move the weights
around and do all the calculations you want to with no danger of crashing..
You can even add/drain fuel to expand the range.. Pick a bunch of friends of
different sizes/heights/weights and load them all in.. Simple
A word of caution, I recall a few years ago a kr pilot was killed doing a test
with ballast.
I don't remember his name, but the presumed cause was a ballast bag getting
loose and ending up in the tail section
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You might try a local dive shop and see if they will loan you some dive
weights. They come in rigid form which slide onto a nylon belt which can be
secured with your seatbelt. There are also soft weights which may be easier to
put in some kind of bag. The lead will be small in size to get the we
I have the passenger moment, as you said, given the same size and
proportioned person, it is the same as the pilot. Actually, I used two
others along with me and averaged the moment to come up with the passenger
station. Now, that certainly won't be the same as the artificial weight,
but I will j
At 11:36 AM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>Thanks, but what weight? What can be secured?
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>Again, the WHAT and HOW to secure it, is the issue that I cannot get an
>answer to, even from the RV community that we have here.
Sand bags sold to
Dan: Your stall speed can be calculated (well, estimated) without flight tests
by looking at the basic formula: L = W = 1/2 rho V^2 x S x Clmax . Without
going into too much detail, the W (weight) in this formula affects the stall
speed linearly. The RR website lists the KR2 stall speed as
Phill : I recommend you find another place to save weight. It's important to
build the structure according to the plans. The KRs have a good reputation for
being structurally robust, so good that many builders routinely fly them
overweight. You are to be commended for wanting to save weight,
If you're not comfortable with flying at 1200# to start with, work your way up
to it using 20 or 25# increments. Doesn't matter what you use for weight as
long as you can secure it. I would suggest duct taping whatever ballast you use
inside a trash bag, then strapping it into the seat belt or p
Thanks, but what weight? What can be secured? Also, stall tests. I
don't do stalls. They scare the crap outa me. I bring it to the "mush"
point and that is good enough for me.
Again, the WHAT and HOW to secure it, is the issue that I cannot get an
answer to, even from the RV community that
At 07:05 AM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>So my question to all you who are currently flying your KR and have
>established your Gross Weight, how did you test for that weight?
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Add weight, say 20 pounds at a time, and make a test
At 10:33 PM 2/11/2012, you wrote:
>Just asking Larry. I've seen both techniques and just wondered.
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The only way to get an answer is to ask the question. :-)
Larry Flesner
Sandbags strapped into the co-pilot seat spot, full fuel & a full 35lb
suitcase (or whatever your baggage limit is) in your baggage area is
probably the most realistic method I can think of
I bought a program called 'winn balance' to do my initial W&B stuff,
when I get to that point... It c
I believe that to satisfy your gross weight, you must test the plane to that
gross weight along with a W&B of the plane at the time of the test. I still
need to test my plane to the 1200 # gross weight that I have arbitrarily set
for it. I tried to go to the EAA site for help, but they have so ma
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