Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-22 Thread Benson Tsai
That is because your concept of identity is wrong. As far as I know, the identity is suppose to represent exactly what the word means, which is, "condition or character as to who a person or what a thing is" (dictionary.com). While you can state that sure, you and you're friend are diffe

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-22 Thread Benson Tsai
Okay, lets put it this way. You are completely wrong about vertical space being "more important" than horizontal space. Consider for a moment the implications of using up the vertical space. It means the view to your buddy list becomes all the slight smaller. Now the consequence of that is you see

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-22 Thread dantti85-dev
> Having tabs optionally is probably good. They could be used for > more than one identity. However, I dislike them. Maybe sometime in the > future I'll use one "work" identity and one "private" identity that I don't > want to mix, but for now I prefer the current unified > window. That's why

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-22 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Thursday 22 July 2010 16:02:08 dantti85-...@yahoo.com.br wrote: > So the account setup as Markus said is also one of the parts > where users find it hard to understand, by having tabs > you can just add a new tab which will become a add new account > and that's done. Having tabs optionally is

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-22 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Thursday 22 July 2010 15:53:05 dantti85-...@yahoo.com.br wrote: > I was sure not everyone would like the tabbed contact list. > I never tried the lancelot component (since I don't like lancelot), You don't need to use the Lancelot menu. You just need to add the menu and then drop the contacts

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-22 Thread dantti85-dev
> De: Benson Tsai > To be honest, the screen shot looks like a way big step backwards. > Plus it totally looks.. inspired by the current version msn: > http://tinyurl.com/msncontactlist . If you're looking in that direction > for UI inspirations, then if you look at live messenger wave > http://

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-22 Thread dantti85-dev
> De: Volker Härtel > I also don't like the proposed gui changes. > - Vertical space is no > problem for me, and can be saved by hiding the menu (ctrl+M) and making > contacts use only one row, see my contact-list: > >http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1390/kopetelist.jpg > - transparency > yo

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-22 Thread dantti85-dev
> I like the idea of making the user interface simpler, however I don't think > this mockup brings Kopete to a more usable state: > - Identity is a very complex term that most people just don't get in > combination with the accounts concepts > - The original Kopete idea was to hide the protocols

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-22 Thread dantti85-dev
> De: Markus Slopianka > IMO some of your ideas (eg. transparent contact list) are actually not well > suited for standard Kopete, but instead for a Plasmoid that lives in > vertical Plasma panel. You can -- kind of -- already get a similar result > by dropping Lancelot's contacts component int

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-22 Thread Volker Härtel
I also don't like the proposed gui changes. - Vertical space is no problem for me, and can be saved by hiding the menu (ctrl+M) and making contacts use only one row, see my contact-list: http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1390/kopetelist.jpg - transparency you can have with desktop effects, or in

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Markus Slopianka wrote: > IMO the worst part of Kopete usability-wise is the way accounts are set up. > Even I (an avid user) find it confusing. For starters, the WinPopup and > Testbed protocolls should be completely deleted to reduce clutter. > I find most of Kop

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread Benson Tsai
To be honest, the screen shot looks like a way big step backwards. Plus it totally looks.. inspired by the current version msn: http://tinyurl.com/msncontactlist . If you're looking in that direction for UI inspirations, then if you look at live messenger wave 4 (http://tinyurl.com/msnwave4), you w

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread Markus Slopianka
IMO some of your ideas (eg. transparent contact list) are actually not well suited for standard Kopete, but instead for a Plasmoid that lives in vertical Plasma panel. You can -- kind of -- already get a similar result by dropping Lancelot's contacts component into a vertical Plasma panel. I use

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
:55 PM, wrote: > http://img707.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plasmadesktope28894.jpg I like the idea of making the user interface simpler, however I don't think this mockup brings Kopete to a more usable state: - Identity is a very complex term that most people just don't get in combination with t

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread Raphael Kubo da Costa
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 17:22:10 dantti85-...@yahoo.com.br wrote: > In the mean time ( i think trunk is frozen now) Nope, trunk is currently open for feature commits. > >Have you talked to the usability folks about > > > > this? Moving the application menu to the bottom left is probably quite >

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread dantti85-dev
> A simple user comment. It is GREAT to improve UI, but the thing which I > really hate from > kopete (despite I love to use it) is its stability, and its missing things > (specially in msn protocol compared to others like > pidgin). Well _IMHO_ one of the reasons about missing things is beca

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread dantti85-dev
> De: Raphael Kubo da Costa Hmmm. > I find some changes such as the protocol tabs interesting, and could not > understand some points (transparent with a blur effect? user image > plasmoid?). With composite the konsole gets transparent, but for readability it's good to have a blur effect on th

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread Raphael Kubo da Costa
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 16:55:23 dantti85-...@yahoo.com.br wrote: > >De: Raphael Kubo da Costa > >Committing directly to trunk probably means you'll already have a > >completely functional new UI for everything for the SC 4.6 release. > > > >It'd be nice if you could post some screenshots of the

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread David
On Miércoles 21 Julio 2010 21:55:23 dantti85-...@yahoo.com.br escribió: > >De: Raphael Kubo da Costa > >Committing directly to trunk probably means you'll already have a > >completely functional new UI for everything for the SC 4.6 release. > > > >It'd be nice if you could post some screenshots of

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread dantti85-dev
>De: Raphael Kubo da Costa >Committing directly to trunk probably means you'll already have a completely >functional new UI for everything for the SC 4.6 release. >It'd be nice if you could post some screenshots of the main changes you intend >to make. Posting review requests via ReviewBoard wo

Re: Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread Raphael Kubo da Costa
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 16:10:27 dantti85-...@yahoo.com.br wrote: > hi list, > I and a friend we use/like kopete, but > at the same time we kind of hate it, > it works well but the user interface > is really bad from our pov. > > We have several ideas to make it better > but we believe not every

Kopete hacking

2010-07-21 Thread dantti85-dev
hi list, I and a friend we use/like kopete, but at the same time we kind of hate it, it works well but the user interface is really bad from our pov. We have several ideas to make it better but we believe not everyone will like it, we started a fork in gitorious named KIM to get an idea of the cod