Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Chris Cormack
Means we never need to worry about increasing the major number again, just keep adding digits. :) Chris Christopher Nighswonger wrote: >On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Liz Rea wrote: > >> I too was looking forward to 3.14. I'm happy to change it after that. >> >> :P >> >> Yes, ok, it's a

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Mark Tompsett
From: Liz Rea Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 6:45 PM To: Nicole Engard Cc: Koha Devel Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering > I too was looking forward to 3.14. I'm happy to change it after that. > :P > Yes, ok, it's a sentimental thing but... it's PI. COME ON. It’s a close approximation of

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Christopher Nighswonger
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Liz Rea wrote: > I too was looking forward to 3.14. I'm happy to change it after that. > > :P > > Yes, ok, it's a sentimental thing but... it's PI. COME ON. > > So does that make for a potentially irrational release? Chris _

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Liz Rea
I too was looking forward to 3.14. I'm happy to change it after that. :P Yes, ok, it's a sentimental thing but... it's PI. COME ON. Liz On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Nicole Engard wrote: > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Galen Charlton wrote: > >> Consequently, I'd be happy if we kept the

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Nicole Engard
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Galen Charlton wrote: > Consequently, I'd be happy if we kept the 3.x series going > indefinitely, or if we bumped up the major version number when it felt > right, or if we dropped the "3." and called the fall release 13.0 or > 14.0. > > Whatever gets decided, I *

Re: [Koha-devel] Branching 3.12.x tomorrow

2013-04-05 Thread Galen Charlton
Hi, On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Galen Charlton wrote: > Tomorrow I will be branching 3.12.x. Bugfixes required for the 3.12.0 > release will be pushed to master first, then cherry-picked for 3.12.x. I have now branched 3.12.x. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Manager of Implementation Eq

Re: [Koha-devel] Branching 3.12.x tomorrow

2013-04-05 Thread Galen Charlton
Hi Marcel, On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Marcel de Rooy wrote: > At this moment QA does focus more on the bugfixes. > Could you let the QA team know when they should start doing regular QA again > on the enhancements/new features? I will do so. Please continue to focus on bugfixes. Regards

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Galen Charlton
Hi, On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Paul Poulain wrote: > Another option I see could be to remove the "3." and name version 12.0, > 12.1, 12.2, 14.0, 14.1,... (that would be fine for the current > updatedatabase mechanism) I don't ask much of version number schemes. Really just two things: fir

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Chris Cormack
On 6 April 2013 07:10, Jared Camins-Esakov wrote: > >> I'm not too pick about the numbering, as a trainer I have been saying that >> we'll roll to 4.0 when we get Solr since that's what was said at KohaCon and >> in IRC meetings (maybe on the mailing list too). I think a single number is >> certa

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Jared Camins-Esakov
> I'm not too pick about the numbering, as a trainer I have been saying that > we'll roll to 4.0 when we get Solr since that's what was said at KohaCon > and in IRC meetings (maybe on the mailing list too). I think a single > number is certainly easier for the average person than our current 3.10.

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Nicole Engard
I'm not too pick about the numbering, as a trainer I have been saying that we'll roll to 4.0 when we get Solr since that's what was said at KohaCon and in IRC meetings (maybe on the mailing list too). I think a single number is certainly easier for the average person than our current 3.10.4 type s

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread BWS Johnson
Salvete! You silly, silly man. Everyone knows that anything past nine isn't real maths. ;) xkcd.com/899/ I still mostly don't care how things are numbered. I care far more that thongs operate how they ought to. Cheers, Brooke___ Koha-devel

Re: [Koha-devel] LTS support (branching the "Koha numbering" thread)

2013-04-05 Thread Jared Camins-Esakov
Paul (et.al.), Maybe this could go into a different thread? I think is off-topic > Agreed. [snip] > A two year "LTS" cycle, with a further two years "support", plus one more >> year of "not dropping off the edge of the world" works extremely well as a >> policy principle, which I feel must be b

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Kyle Hall
I think you have some good ideas here. It seems to me that support for each release drops off rather dramatically. Our oldest supported release is currently 3.8 which was first released about 1 year ago! Right now I believe a release is only supported as long as we have a maintainer willing to do

[Koha-devel] LTS support (branching the "Koha numbering" thread)

2013-04-05 Thread Tomas Cohen Arazi
Maybe this could go into a different thread? I think is off-topic On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Paul wrote: > At 07:34 AM 4/5/2013 -0400, Kyle Hall wrote: > >> From what I've I've heard around the water cooler, we won't be switching >> to >> 4.x until there is some major change to the interna

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Paul Poulain
Le 05/04/2013 15:26, Paul Poulain a écrit : > So 12.0, 12.1, 12.2,... then 14.0,... Another positive aspect of this option : 12.0 IS a number. 3.12.0 isn't ;-) -- Paul POULAIN - BibLibre http://www.biblibre.com Free & Open Source Softwares for libraries Koha, Drupal, Piwik, Jasper __

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Paul
At 07:34 AM 4/5/2013 -0400, Kyle Hall wrote: From what I've I've heard around the water cooler, we won't be switching to 4.x until there is some major change to the internal infrastructure of Koha ( like Solr support, or perhaps DBIx::Class support ). I think if were to ditch the traditional ver

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Colin Campbell
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 03:26:27PM +0200, Paul Poulain wrote: > And as we're about to release 3.12.0, my preference is slowly moving > toward *removing* the 3. and saying each major release get it's major > number. So 12.0, 12.1, 12.2,... then 14.0,... > The 3.xx releases have been so succesfull t

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Kyle Hall
I was not aware of that. I have no strong opinion on the matter in general, but I will say that with this style of versioning at least we wouldn't have to argue over what constitutes and justifies a major revision number change ; ) Kyle http://www.kylehall.info ByWater Solutions ( http://bywaters

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Chris Nighswonger
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Paul Poulain wrote: > As we have each 6 month a new major release, why not increment the major > number on each of them ? > And as we're about to release 3.12.0, my preference is slowly moving > toward *removing* the 3. and saying each major release get it's major >

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Paul Poulain
Le 05/04/2013 14:11, Chris Nighswonger a écrit : > It seems that any "major" move forward would qualify for a major version > increment, however. Something like DBIx, the completion of the move from > C4:: to Koha::, the completion of the move from YUI to bootstrap, etc. In this case, we could have

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Paul Poulain
Le 05/04/2013 13:34, Kyle Hall a écrit : > From what I've I've heard around the water cooler, we won't be switching > to 4.x until there is some major change to the internal infrastructure > of Koha ( like Solr support, or perhaps DBIx::Class support ). The switch from 2.x to 3.x was driven by a fu

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Chris Nighswonger
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Paul Poulain wrote: > What could/should we expect to decide to switch to 4.x ? > IIRC this was discussed sometime back on irc/wiki/mailing list/somewhere and the prevailing thought was that 4.x would happen when the solr implementation was stable. But then my memor

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Quoc Uy
Nice question. I don't know, too. But really, the 3. has important meaning, i guess! Maybe nicole engard or chris and answer! Best regards! Nguyen Quoc Uy On 05.04.2013, at 14:00, koha-devel-requ...@lists.koha-community.org wrote: > Send Koha-devel mailing list submissions to >koha-devel@li

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread MJ Ray
Kyle wrote: > I think if were to ditch the traditional versioning system, that maybe the > Ubuntu year/month style would. So a major release this month would be > version 13.04. I'm not endorsing it, it's just a possibility ; ) If we go that way, please don't use the point as the divider because h

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Mathieu Saby
Hello If you want a librarian point of view, Koha 4 should have a major visible improvement for librarians and patrons, not only a change in infrastructure. And the main improvement we are waiting for is SolR. I don't even know what is DBIx::Class ;-) Mathieu Kyle Hall a écrit : From what I'

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Kyle Hall
>From what I've I've heard around the water cooler, we won't be switching to 4.x until there is some major change to the internal infrastructure of Koha ( like Solr support, or perhaps DBIx::Class support ). I think if were to ditch the traditional versioning system, that maybe the Ubuntu year/mon

[Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Paul Poulain
Hello koha-devel, Throwing the question : after version 3.10, we're about to release 3.12, the next version is expected to be 3.14 My question is a small one : what does the "3." mean for us ? The 3.12 is really different from 3.0, that has been released 5 years ago. Remembering history, we switc

Re: [Koha-devel] Branching 3.12.x tomorrow

2013-04-05 Thread Marcel de Rooy
Galen, At this moment QA does focus more on the bugfixes. Could you let the QA team know when they should start doing regular QA again on the enhancements/new features? Thanks, Marcel Van: koha-devel-boun...@lists.koha-community.org [koha-devel-boun...@l

Re: [Koha-devel] Jesse Weaver will be working with ByWater for the Summer.

2013-04-05 Thread BWS Johnson
Salvete! Won't matter. Everyone knows that Galen is a bot. *duck* Cheers, Brooke___ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel website : http://www.koha-community.o

Re: [Koha-devel] Jesse Weaver will be working with ByWater for the Summer.

2013-04-05 Thread Paul Poulain
Le 05/04/2013 00:14, Brendan Gallagher a écrit : > Jesse Weaver, the 54th committer to Koha, will be working with ByWater > from May 15th to about August 15th of 2013. > > He will be dedicated to working only on Koha work, like signing off on > patches and fixing bugs Galen, with 2 dev full time

Re: [Koha-devel] BibLibre hires a student to work during summer for the community

2013-04-05 Thread Magnus Enger
On 4 April 2013 20:53, Chris Cormack wrote: > So writing WWW::Mechanize tests to test things functions also. > > I'd like to build up a set of tests that can simulate an hour in an > average(ish) library, and have them running after any successful > jenkins build. I can help with the jenkins side

Re: [Koha-devel] Jesse Weaver (pianohacker) will be working with ByWater for the Summer. Special Request to join QAA team..

2013-04-05 Thread Marcel de Rooy
+1 from me too; the biggest qa team ever and hopefully the smallest queue :) Van: koha-devel-boun...@lists.koha-community.org [koha-devel-boun...@lists.koha-community.org] namens Katrin Fischer [katrin.fischer...@web.de] Verzonden: vrijdag 5 april 2013 7: