Lorenzo,
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 05:29:12AM -0600, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> > See my other note. Just remember what layers things are on instead
> > of messing around with bitmasks. So, when you place pin 1, you place
>
any more better coders.
Their time is free to you. They want IDF too, but also much more.
Hopefully they will just fork it when they discover that their
changes will never see the mainline.
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Lorenzo,
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 04:38:13AM -0600, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> > You don't need list of layers: just from and to--a pair.
>
> How do you fit mask, silk and other technical layers in a range? I agree
>
Lorenzo,
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 03:41:26AM -0600, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> > Mid-term in the wrong direction. Kicad is like that...
>
> Look. I have this board due to fabrication for the end of month.
> I simply can
iple instances to represent a padstack (that would be the cleanest
> solution, given some backpointer to correlate them).
>
> But of course that would be a massive modification.
You don't need list of layers: just from and to--a pair.
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Lorenzo,
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 04:21:59AM -0600, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> > 5000 module descriptions to extract the 5000 pieces of placement
> > data is the horror of kicad's internal representation.
>
> There
keep-out layers for some notes on my trials and
tribulations.
I really wish gEDA wasn't such an emacs clone.
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Lorenzo,
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 08:55:31PM -0600, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> > that's another 26 (or more) layers. Still think 64 will be
> > enough?
>
> I said it was a mid-term solution.
Mid-term in the wrong
rators. I did that, but nobody was interested at the time.
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Dick,
Give it a rest.
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Dick Hollenbeck wrote:
>
> Maybe, but what about basic "please and thank you." Where does that fit in?
> Obviously nowhere for Lorenzo.
>
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64_4;
but stdint.h is a 'C' header file and not a C++ header file.
-brian
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> On 4/10/2012 4:41 PM, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> > Wayne,
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> >>
> >> On 64-
ong's are 64-bits.
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Fabrizio,
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
> Brian,
>
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Brian F. G. Bidulock
> wrote:
> > Karl,
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Karl Schmidt wrote:
> >
> >> There is a very easy solution to all th
r designs in the US...
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Miguel,
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote:
> I can be wrong, but, anything that's been designed by an author, has
> authorship, and it makes it have copyright.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
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ibrary together with their program) but this is enforced if they are
> doing work based on the library (as in distributing another library
> using footprints from the GPLed library)
>
> I don't know if this clears anything up or further muddies the waters,
> but I hope for the f
Dick,
See, for example:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLHardware
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> Dick,
>
> Because only artistic works, software and chip masks are
> protected by copyright (internationally). Functional items
> such a
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s (including vias) not connected to pads or
zones to NOT have a netcode.
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t;allow to start track on copper filled areas. Actually this is exactly
>how I do it now. When rest is routed, I fill zones with copper and then
>place vias, starting track anywhere on filled zone.
>On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Dick Hollenbeck <[1]d...@softplc.com&g
osition them ahead of where you want to lay the pair. I put one
at the edge of the breakout region of a BGA so that I can get wild from
there.
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PS image will be tranfered
to the board directly as an etch resist. Widths of tracks and
vias must, therefore, be "corrected" for etch factor.
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Guillaume,
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011, Guillaume Simard wrote:
>
> What do you think ?
>
Cool! Excellent feature!
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/kicad-brian/view/head:/pcbnew/import_idf.cpp
There is also an import/export dialog and some additional abstract
base class information. This is just roughed out because Kicad's
internal data format cannot really handle the format yet.
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56A and
IPC-D-356B are described in the comments in the file.
I suppose this is for those OHWD Cern guys. Funny. When I asked
for it nobody was interested. Please feel free to use and abuse
whatever you would like from that and other files on the branch.
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tep aside
when it comes time for someone else to do it.
It took a whole 10 or 20 lines of code the last time I did it. The dialog
check box was more, but the dialog already existed.
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Lorenzo,
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 04:01:46AM -0700, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
>
> Read the notes document. Interesting stuff I think that some of them
> belong to the CAM world more than to the CAD; but maybe our
> manufactur
ate).
Dcd:- Depth controlled drilling of outer layers of sublaminate.
HoleFill:- Hole filling from outer layers of sublaminate.
Laser:- Laser drilling from outer layers of sublaminate.
Backdrill:- Backdrilling of Pth for sublaminate.
Npth:- Non-plate-through holes in sublaminate.
R
not have access to skilled workers with that low
a standard of living.)
Do you see the problem? Now that the true position and size of metric
things has been destroyed, it might require recreating everthing from
scratch.
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Lorenzo,
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 10:33:29AM -0700, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> > Well, in fact, almost all bitwise AND comparisons are either testing
> > for a single layer or all copper layers. Sometimes a range of layers
>
Lorenzo,
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 03:46:58PM -0700, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
>
> > The only other legacy change that I ran into that I
> > changed a year ago was the number of layers and their
> > representation. You k
Vladimir,
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011, Vladimir Uryvaev wrote:
> At Friday 25 of November 2011 02:38:47 from Brian F. G. Bidulock:
> > The problem without this approach is that the code external to the object
> > keeps putting objects on and taking them off and sorting them on all these
ether that should be done
against "testing" or "experimental"?
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the code base stability aforded by those intermediate steps might be worth
the extra effort.
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cad is useful only for laying out
dimmer switches.
Make the unit a nanometer, or better. Make the angle
1/1000th of a degree, or better. Otherwise these same
problems will result on some board.
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t I did over a year ago.
Next step would be to refactor the accessors: e.g. factoring
setX(), setY() to move(), etc.
Having already done it once, I don't feel much like doing it
again myself.
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Marcantonio wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 06:39:25AM -0700, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> > I was working with 5 and 7mil LVDS and CMI pairs and low and
> > behold, someone put integer trig functions in kicad instead of
> > using, oh, gee, the floating point processor. Well
Lorenzo,
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 09:06:11AM -0700, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> > Lorenzo,
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> > >
> > > What about doing what everybody else is doin
Lorenzo,
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
>
> What about doing what everybody else is doing? Feature freeze the main
> branch (only for fixes) and go on on an experimental one...
>
What is "testing" for?
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Dick,
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Dick Hollenbeck wrote:
>
> In the case of Brian Buldulock, he already has a fork. What he wants is a
> team. In fact,
> he wants to be a team leader.
>
Not at all, I would be as bad a team leader as you are.
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or that is no longer developed. sure if a split makes one far superior
> maybe it is a solution longer term.
>
> On 22/11/2011 14:21, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
>> Simon,
>>
>> As a user you seem worried about control. Perhaps this is because
>> the current mana
n Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 06:05:33AM -0700, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> > Looking at the code, the first thing that I did was change all
> > members to private and used the compiler to force the use of
> > proper accessor member f
I mostly choose opensource/freeware
> programs because i know they are better than commercial stuff because
> written by their users. I just want a system that i can keep using
> knowing that it will not suddenly become obsolete.
>
> Simon
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keep them compatible if you must split and make sure
>versions remain compatible. KiCAD is a nice program although it needs
>work doing to it. Please don't ruin the only option we do have in the
>hobbyist world for a serious PCB suit.
> View of an end user !
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will
tell you that none of these things really needs to be changed,
because they do not constitute a bug fix.
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Marco,
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010, Marco Mattila wrote:
> All right. Based on your and Jean-Pierre's comments it seems that the
> sole use of and idea behind the block operations is to move (or copy
> or flip or whatever) the entire board and nothing else. I'm mostly
> using it to move smaller groups of
Alex,
That's an excellent idea.
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On Mon, 01 Nov 2010, Alex Leone wrote:
>How about drawing items when there's less than 20 things selected,
>otherwise just a rectangle (maybe with the outer bounding box of the
>selected items)?
>
> - Alex
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Marco,
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Marco Mattila wrote:
> Comments?
I really don't want it displaying more than a rectangle. The reason
is that block operations are the only way of moving an entire board.
My entire boards have 22,000 features. It will take me several minutes
of watching the screen bl
Lorenzo,
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
>
> The problem is plotting: Gerber AM only supports *regular* polygons or
> just *outlines*; in fact the 'trapezoidal' pad is *not* plotted, as of
> today... it's simply not supported by gerber :(
I am confused by your statement. The AM #
kicad-developers,
After fighting for several days only to discover that the second
path element had to be "kicad", the branch has been uploaded
to
lp:~bidulock/kicad/kicad-brian
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> Alex,
>
> > I'll be lookin
Dick,
> It is mind boggling that 2.54 and using a C++ double does not allow this
> to happen. I don't have time to test it, but I am wondering about it.
> Is this a problem with 64 IEEE float, or that we simply do not have
> enough resolution in our internal units?
Internal units are int.
--br
Alex,
> I'll be looking forward to your branch on Launchpad. :)
lp:~bidulock/+junk/kicad-brian
It will take a while to upload.
Please count me now with the team players ;}
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Thanks for the tips. I was confusing PPA with branch...
It is uploading now to lp:~bidulock/+junk/kicad-brian
It is a work in progress, don't expect this push to even compile.
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> for some reason 4.3 sticks in my head but it has been a while since I have
> looked at this code ) so it is less of an issue in this case. Before someone
> gets upset, I'm not suggesting that PCBNew should not support the maximum
> resolution o
Dick,
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Dick Hollenbeck wrote:
>
> Look, I just want to re-iterate the concerns I brought up about this 6
> months ago.
>
> I did not think it was a good idea then, and I still feel that way. In
> general, we welcome your contributions. You bring a great deal of
> expertise
Alex,
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Alex G wrote:
>
> Please guys, stop arguing. I agree with changing the base unit system to
> metric, and I have already voiced that opinion. No one tried to chop my
> throat. If it makes sense to switch to metric why not do it?
>
> The real question is wether it makes
Dick,
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Dick Hollenbeck wrote:
> On 10/11/2010 03:30 AM, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> >
> > I've done a bunch of work converting PCBNEW's internal unit to
> > nanometers.
> >
> > --brian
> >
>
> You mean in your fo
metric before being
> stored. Considering the _exact_ correspondence of 25.4 between
> millimeters and inches, this can be done with no loss of precision.
> Currently this loss of exactness happens (3.2mm becomes 3.1something).
>
> I think that's what Vesa meant as well.
&g
Karl,
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010, Karl Schmidt wrote:
...snip...
> A lot of the traditional practices in CAD systems were due to RAM and disk
> storage limits.. My first CAD system had a 10MB hard-drive -(remember
...snip...
You had a hard drive! You lucky dog! I had a 360k floppy...
...on the new
; names.
Front and back are reasonable for the module editor, but top and bottom
is standard in the industry. (But I really don't care.)
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ments so that
the unclipped portion can remain.
I think that the masking (which I have already done) is easier and
probably sufficient. Also, it is what the fabricator does anyway.
Well, you get the idea.
What do you think of that?
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yer. Component
top and bottom can be plotted for proper assembly drawings.
It sounds simple, but the number of places in the code where
it relied on some characteristic of the copper bitmask ordering was
shameful. A layer can now be added by simply defining a new "Layer
Class" and teachin
Lorenzo,
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Alex G wrote:
>
> >Wouldn't it then be feasible to create the normal 7.4mm pad on the back,
> >and leave a smaller pad (say 4mm) on the front (and maybe inner layers),
> >or is this getting too complicated to be of an
Lorenzo,
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> You're right. I'm doing the analysis component by component, you have to
> be patient :D
Thank you very much for your effort. I'll leave you to it.
I have weeks of work left on pcbnew as it stands anyway.
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Lorenzo,
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
> Look around and you'll see that most people don't actually use
> autorouters (unless for unimportant tracks, like led lines). Most of my
> work is mixed signal (in industry) so good luck telling your 'average'
> autorouter to: 1) drop pow
Vesa,
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010, Vesa Solonen wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
>
> >The next big feature for pcbnew should be a track pusher/shover. I want
> >it :D Sadly I have *no idea* on how it could be implemented.
>
> Kicadocaml may be an usable example http://code.google
Lorenzo,
Looking at an entry for a BGA below (wrapped) from BGA7351B.plb09
BGA;1;0 1 4 1 4 1 26 3 7 1 3 1 3 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 3 1 3 1 7 3 26 1 4
1 4 1;0;5;11;5;11;100;3;0;0;0;60;60;60;
60;10 BGA100C50P11X11_600X600X100 BGA,0.50mm
pitch,square;1
which can then be customized from there. It would still be
nice for that wizard to read directly a vendor-supplied PLB
file.
What are your thoughts?
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For a usable board (and particularly for DIY manufacturing) there is no
difference between CAD and CAM issues.
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Dick,
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010, Dick Hollenbeck wrote:
>
> Brian, for temporary scaffolding, you can use class NETLIST_LEXER and
> have the parser read your structured "generic netlist file in
> S-expression form" from the clipboard, where you can keep a text file in
> your editor, paste to the clipb
Dick,
What's an S-record file?
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library in EESCHEMA could assign
maximum current sink into a power pin. Assigning junction
conductivity to footprints with, say, cvpcb would be nice too.
Otherwise all of this stuff needs to be plugged into PCBNEW
separately (as with netclasses).
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Dick,
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010, Dick Hollenbeck wrote:
>
--X--snip--X--
> Curious about scala now. Later I came to refer to the lower level
> languages as "programming on your hands and knees". Each has their
> place, but this is determined by the platform. The fact that the linux
> kernel is writt
stub
types) so I will change those when I get there.
I want to finish the PCBNEW work first.
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e,
use a binary format.
If the length of the file is not important, why are you not
repeating pin information?
More comments later...
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M, importing into vendor web
tool, is too much of a pain.
It might be nice to be able to export simple BOM to separate
files, by vendor, to do so.
Maybe this is something that a separate AVL tool should, do,
but what I really wanted to point out is that BOM generation
is not just a final output.
-
Can anybody shed light on this 'Pads on Silkscreen' option?
When set, a outline of every pad is plotted on the silkscreen
layer. However, it is plotted precisely at the outline of the
pad. If this is done, half the ink will be off the pad on the
laminate between the pad and the primary mask (wit
Dick,
I hate sourceforge. I probably would not contribute if
it had not moved to launchpad.
I hate svn. I have worked mostly with SCCS, RCS, CVS,
and git. I am new to bzr, and it is so fast! I am
considering moving my other large projects to bzr. Sure
it has some quirks, but I was amazed by
AD. Some accept GenCAM.
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¦ Therefore all progress depen
tation in
English. Then at some point you must of course decide whether
to switch to the newer branch or abandon it.
How does that sound?
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echeck everything to ensure
> the ouput is conforming.
>
> I anyone else already working on this? (actually has *anyone* tried to
> use the generated file? *every* tool I found choked on it...)
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