;d hope I'd keep better backups to do
so! =:^]
Well either that or I'd be aiming for something a bit more stable than the
live-git stuff I run... Or maybe both more stable and more backup
updates!
> We’ll try KDEP6 when FreeBSD UNIX, Slackware & Kubuntu LTS GNU/Linuxes
> up
t work" (after a reboot or otherwise ensuring the new
envar setting is in the environment as kde/plasma sees it, of course =:^) .
The big caveat here is of course the assumption that you can set and export
XDG_DATA_DIRS deployment-wide as appropriate for your site/policy, but
given the sce
ilarly, I read that kwin_wayland can be run in windowed mode on X, tho
I've never done it.)
There are of course other ways to check... wmctrl -lG (ell for list, not
one, if there's a bunch of X apps listed including plasmashell, you're
likely on X, none or just a couple legacy a
view the git commit logs
and had seen hints of some of these from those backports where appropriate,
but I have a /much/ better high-level view of the "why" behind some of
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ew browser. I'll change it in the one place and be done. =:^)
(Actually, I have a second one, wbn, that opens the link in a new window
instead of a new tab in an existing window, as well. But mostly I just
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for has been frameworks5 updated or is still legacy
kde4.
Which is more or less what I posted, and what the kde docs say as well...
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kim all three
pages under filesystem, plus the environmental vars page under desktop
session. Of course if you're like me, you'll end up reading much more
than that just because it's interesting how it all fits together, but
that should pretty well cover this case and others like
dle of 4.x, and with 4.x ->
5.x, while at least they 4.x apps continue to run in 5.x, they're now
talking about pulling kdelibs4 off life support sometime in 2018, so
what's not ported by then is basically dead. And something like
superkaramba that depends quite a bit on sysguard'
gure out which one, at least then you know which app to kill. Of
course, with my problem, it didn't happen to work that way, since I was
emitting the triggers artificially, and the app that would then initiate
the drag-lock would thus /appear/ to be random.
Meanwhile, one (typically Duncan
else who comes along
that might use them and be able to answer.)
Also, for those for whom Debian Sid says nothing, assuming it's kmail
you're talking about, what version of kmail? The kmail 5.2.3 / kde
5.28.0 that I see in your user agent header?
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pstream module, with
qtdeclarative named libs) go but kept qtdeclarative (the gentoo package
and upstream module, with qtquick named libs) as a current dep, while it
seems on debian you must do the reverse in terms of package names, since
on debian they appear to match the lib names not the upstrea
is latter case is the situation kde4 was in for a number of
the specs, making kde5 the first full adoption of several of them.)
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the shell(s) and Qt implement it, so also not
> something that KWrite developers would have to spend resources on.
As always, thanks, Kevin. I enjoy your clear explanations. =:^)
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apps (like superkaramba, unfortunately one of my personal
favorites) aren't being ported to k5. (Superkaramba only remains
available in its k4 form and has been dropped from further development,
so will eventually break and fail to build any more with modern tools and
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led, they may be able to give you more kdepim-specific detail, but
I found it real interesting that you posted this today, when I only saw
that in the commit logs from yesterday's update, and that the previously
forced UTC behavior matched so perfectly to what your dialog, from an
entirely d
teppisti-xpla posted on Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:47:02 +0100 as excerpted:
> On 27/02/16 19:29, Kevin Krammer wrote:
>> On Saturday, 2016-02-27, 18:53:59, yahoo-pier_andreit wrote:
>>
>>> many thanks duncan, :-) , sorry, but I intend KDE application as one
>>>
theme:
$ equery belongs kapplymousetheme
* Searching for kapplymousetheme ...
kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.5.4 (/usr/bin/kapplymousetheme)
So in that case the package and version is plasma-desktop 5.5.4.
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CLI and doesn't need X. And it's much harder to break a CLI login than a
*DM of any sort. =:^)
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. If you're not using any of
those, or if for instance you use konqueror but don't have any site
logins stored on it, then kwallet is pretty well useless, since that's
what it does, store credentials for such mostly online accounts. If you
start using a kde-based app that in turn
correct me, but it would
surprise me.
Meanwhile, even if kde screen savers /have/ disappeared, X's screensaver
mechanism should still work, and generic X screen savers should still
work, tho as they aren't kde specific packages I wouldn't expect them to
show up in kde system setti
lty coming up with, so I've continued to
put off the upgrade. Luckily gentoo is continuing to carry both kde4 and
plasma5 for the time being, and it's a rolling distro, so the rest of the
system continues to upgrade as normal, even tho the plasma5 upgrade /is/
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excerpted:
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:24 AM, Duncan wrote:
>> Removing udisks is likely to do it.
> I tried and it works. Now the notifier does nothing when a usb storage
> is connected. But now I can
or I
haven't figured out how to fully kill polkit in plasma5 yet, so it's
installed for that, ATM.
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ore the current one even really works to a level
either you or I would define as "well".
Oh, well. As they say, "such is life!" =:^\
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Duncan posted on Tue, 08 Sep 2015 04:13:57 + as excerpted:
> I'll post back when I see whether I can actually run plasma5, now, and
> then, presuming you're either switched or attempting to switch as well,
> we can compare notes on the kde-frameworks/plasma5 side.
Well,
I can actually run plasma5, now, and
then, presuming you're either switched or attempting to switch as well,
we can compare notes on the kde-frameworks/plasma5 side.
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be a hassle to replace and suitably configure
the replacement, but the plasma upgrade would be about the same for that
one, and replacing the other two should it be necessary shouldn't be
anything like as difficult as what I've already replaced during the life
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e away or have
only been replaced with other deps. I did have to keep strigi as some kde
packages (kdelibs and kde's systemsettings are the two I have installed
that still dep on it) apparently link to its headers without a disable
option, but with all its backends turned off, it couldn&#
from
MS and OE, kmail and the then sylpheed-claws, were the two at the top of
my short list. If I'd have chosen sylpheed-claws back then, I'd have
never suffered the disruption of a change, as sylpheed-claws later became
the claws-mail I eventually switched to. Oh, well...
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y, or a qt5 app, or
neither, since it only uses a handful of libs from either and they're
shipped as individual components?
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Ralf Mardorf posted on Thu, 23 Jul 2015 06:49:13 +0200 as excerpted:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 04:01:35 + (UTC), Duncan wrote:
>>Dmt Ops posted on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:19:36 -0700 as excerpted:
>>
>>> I need to permanently disable a KDE startup service, the "Input
>
Dmt Ops posted on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:19:36 -0700 as excerpted:
> I need to permanently disable a KDE startup service, the "Input Actions
> daemon".
Replied on the kde-general list...
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ionally for tracking down what package might provide a particular
file I don't have installed, for instance, or more often, for cases such
as this.
Seems rpmfind.net has srpms (Fedora Secondary Rawhide Sources) for
libktorrent back to 1.2, but for binary rpms unless you're on some exot
d more general instructions for setting up
a kde development environment, etc, if that is your wish, along with
links to various projects, etc. The kde sysadmin documentation, which
I've found useful many times over the years, is linked from there as well.
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he problem, and finding a key that the VMs don't
swallow to fake, that you can setup in kde to do the actual switch, and
in sxhkd to be faked using xdotool when you hit the real hotkey.
As for finding such unused keys to fake, check /usr/share/X11/xkb
#x27;s layout. More below...
> Duncan,
>
> Your tip to try kcmshell was a great help to me. It's helped me become
> aware that there are many modules are available for customizing the kde
> desktop environment.
Yes. Here's the (somewhat extended...) back-story.
In kde3 (and II
Mun Johl posted on Fri, 03 Apr 2015 09:36:06 -0700 as excerpted:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 07:40 PM PDT, Duncan wrote:
> D> Mun Johl posted on Thu, 02 Apr 2015 17:46:41 -0700 as excerpted:
> D>
> D> > My Platform:
> D> >CentOS release 6.4 (Final)
> D> &g
. When you get the settings you
want, you can exit from that applet, either by selecting another to work
with, or by closing kde system settings entirely, as the settings will
have already been applied and tested. =:^)
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njoy looking at what people consider interesting enough to post to
their websites, including blogs and galleries, and for that reason, if
you can update it and keep it updated so it's not a cracking invitation,
please do so, as it'd be a shame for the gallery to fall off the web.
=:^(
the right direction, at least. With a
bit of luck it'll be enough to let you fix it yourself. If not, let it
be a guide to posting additional information about which of the two
methods (or both) you were talking about, whether klipper is running or
not, and if running, what its configurat
ace
appearance and behavior. That's what I see here on gentoo, tho for all I
know kubuntu may have only appearance. If you have the split as I do,
it's should be the workspace category, not under common. But after that
it is as he said, under workspace behavior, workspace.
Once ther
ot;disown -a", disowning all jobs so they don't respond to the
SIGHUP when bash closes.
NOW you should be able to exit the bash shell and thus konsole, without
killing the command started from it. =:^)
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kwin's generic desktop zoom effect on them instead, same as I use it
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as the super or hyper or windows key, and I set various combinations of
windows key shortcuts to control al
to be unmasked to ~arch as all known
package issues with the new gcc have been addressed and the maintainer is
putting out a last-call for developer testers before ~arch gets it, which
is the stage at which I finally upgraded to gcc 4.8.x.
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here
you click in the window determining
which side of the window moves.
"Alt" being the standard X modifier
key for this. Here, I've set it to
the "window" key instead, the window
key being the modifier I use for all
my window-manipulation actions. But
if you've not set it
James Tyrer posted on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:41:54 -0700 as excerpted:
> On 09/11/2014 01:27 PM, Duncan wrote:
>> James Tyrer posted on Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:26:15 -0700 as excerpted:
>>
>>> I mentioned problems with KDE-4.14.0. At start up, Plasma-Desktop
>>> immedia
; Forwarded Message
>
> On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 20:27 +, Duncan wrote:
>> uname -m:
>>
>> x86_64
>
> That doesn't show that your CPU is an AMD CPU ;).
It shows amd64 aka x86_64 arch/instruction-set. However:
grep -i amd /proc/cpuinfo gives me six
.)
Anyway, qt-4.8.6 is definitely runnable on amd64 as I'm doing it, but
that's not saying whether there's patches applied that are allowing it,
or that it would or wouldn't break without them.
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ng ones to backfill, and as long as you change the count
appropriately when you're done, you should be fine. That's the way I'd
handle it here.
So for instance I have 42 rule sections. If I deleted two of them
manually, I'd renumber sections 41 and 42 to whatever two I delete
t, or working with the file either from
some other DE or from a text console. Since ensuring konsole isn't
running is a bit easier, I'd suggest testing that one first.
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kde has really had to come into better xdg
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. (Of course for native-code plasmoids and runners. The
qml and js coded ones shouldn't need rebuild as they're not native code
in the first place.)
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Ralf Mardorf posted on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:29:47 +0100 as excerpted:
> On Sun, 2014-02-23 at 15:57 +0000, Duncan wrote:
>> In fact, it appears to be a missing library simple triggering a crash,
>> as trying to (re-)start plasma-desktop results in a complaint about
>> same.
ars to be a missing library simple triggering a crash, as
trying to (re-)start plasma-desktop results in a complaint about same.
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Active Opacity: Force: 85%
My default active window opacity is 99%, but I like just a bit more
transparency for the konsole window. 85% opacity is the best compromise
I've found so far, between the beauty of transparency and
d, if your rpmfind krunner shortcut is activated:
rpmfind:gnome-disk
Which ends up here:
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=gnome-disk
Looks like no fedora listed. Perhaps they call it something else. But
there's opensuse and mandriva packages listed.
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James Tyrer posted on Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:11:43 -0700 as excerpted:
> On 01/22/2014 10:29 PM, Duncan wrote:
>> James Tyrer posted on Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:24:06 -0700 as excerpted:
>>
>>> The fist strange issue is that KInfoCenter doesn't find my Hard Disk.
>>
&
r as a superkaramba theme (my current theme can be seen filling the
top monitor-screen of three, in the screenshot here:
http://wstaw.org/m/2013/05/11/duncan-fullscreen.png ) or yasp-scripted
config (I used that before setting up superkaramba, it's available in kde-
look), or using someth
the GUI user screwing with system time either), so that
wasn't a big deal for me in the first place, but I do understand why a
lot of folks wouldn't be particularly comfortable with such a solution.
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Duncan posted on Thu, 26 Dec 2013 18:37:48 + as excerpted:
> The package does remain available in gentoo, but it's hard-masked, so
> anyone wishing to install it must deliberately unmask it first, and as
> usual when running hard-masked packages, "if it breaks, you get t
the package installed by default, and on
distros without a masking mechanism similar to gentoo's it likely won't
be shipped at all, for kde4 anyway. It may appear in hopefully more
mature form for kde frameworks 5, or not; it's really a bit early to say
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he graphical effects dropdown.
However, while I remember discovering at least one thing it does affect
at some point (I believe after someone hinted at it in a post here), I
don't remember what it was, and the effect is subtle enough it was hard
for me to figure out what difference it made
unrelated-config fileopens, and see what files remain. Then check them
and see what it actually does when you change an open-with priority, so
you can do the same thing via direct text-file edit.
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e workaround idea here is that before you close kde and firefox, you
save your tabs as bookmarks. Then when you restart kde and with it
firefox, you can open the bookmarks menu and subfolder you created the
bookmarks in, then use the open all in tabs option to open everything
back up. Presum
Felix Miata posted on Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:36:30 -0500 as excerpted:
> On 2013-11-13 12:08 (GMT) Duncan composed:
>
>>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318061
>
>> The root problem is one of legacy hardware (lack of) features. Floppy
>> drives are old en
't make sense either.
I just don't see the case where either USB thumbdrives, or CD/DVD read/
writers (of comparable cost to floppy devices, possibly even cheaper
since the antique-hardware tax that applies to floppy devices isn't as
steep for CD/DVD writers yet), or worst-case
e unusual use for them, floppies /are/ obsolete, and
I'd simply disable it in the BIOS, as in fact I had done for several
years with the floppy on my old machine before I upgraded. Then the
system doesn't see the floppy even if it's still physically installed,
and you've nice
nt kde, some not. Here's the one that gentoo
makes available in its package repository ATM. (There's a link in the
description to the older version from which it forked after the older
version sort of broke with the panel resizing feature of kde 4.5, and you
can always search kdelook f
d it won't work, then suddenly you post about it and it
works! Surely, the simple act of posting a question sometimes
mysteriously fix the problem, because it sure SEEMS it works that way!
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or not.) Coupled
with a selective-display feature such as dolphin's filters, this works
well for selecting all of a particular type of file.
Once the desired multi-selection is done, Kevin's copy/move instructions
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rub2 documentation:
https://www.google.com/search?q=grub2+documentation&ie=UTF-8
As I said, if you want to try the advanced direct grub.cfg edit method
and have questions about it after reading the various documentation (I
certainly did, said documentation was frustratingly imprecise in sp
Kevin Krammer posted on Fri, 02 Aug 2013 09:37:46 +0200 as excerpted:
> On Friday, 2013-08-02, Duncan wrote:
>> James Tyrer posted on Thu, 01 Aug 2013 21:12:11 -0700 as excerpted:
>> > I have looked at this and have reached the conclusion that the file:
>> >
simply don't
have whatever components installed that require it, and kded continues to
work without it if those components aren't used.
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y 4.11 install, so the dependency has
definitely been dropped from whatever I have currently installed on my
main machine running 4.11-branch.
Meanwhile, both 4.9 and 4.11 kdelibs packages have a dbus-1/interfaces/
subdir, but NOT a dbus-1/services subdir, so if that has changed, it's a
cha
le is, you should be able to open it in a text
editor and see the content, thus seeing whether it's suitable to copy to
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so, /then/ upgrade, after everything has hopefully settled down and works
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antic-desktop with
4.11 (tho it's still run-time disablable), taking away the previous
choice to not even install the (for me) junk in the first place. Thus my
thread on the gentoo-desktop list asking if anyone else is interested in
helping me maintain the patches I'm already using with
James Tyrer posted on Wed, 26 Jun 2013 21:31:10 -0700 as excerpted:
> On 06/26/2013 01:52 AM, Duncan wrote:
>> James Tyrer posted on Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:22:44 -0700 as excerpted:
>>
>>> I am just finishing up with updating to 4.10.3 if that matters.
>>> Somewhe
em, will hopefully do the trick.
Alternatively, a patch shouldn't be /too/ difficult to hack up if indeed
the only problem is a name-pattern filter as I suspect is likely. I'd
guess/hope they've done that already for 4.11, but meanwhile...
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no harm letting it sit there for awhile... until a year or two or five
down the road, when I DO actually come across it for some reason, at
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the option entirely... which is probably why I've not run into that issue
here, since I never had it enabled in the first place.
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e kde major version as well, since
they ship or for a period shipped both kde3 and kde4 and kept the configs
separate, thus ~/.kde4 , which would make the path ~/.kde4/share/config/
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ced enough, there's an even more advanced app
called wmiface, that's more suited to programmers and others used to
using X's C/C++ interfaces, who want a way to script them from the
command line as well. But while I use wmctrl for this or that
occasionally and I tried wmiface, I found it
makes more sense to me now that when I read about it back
then (I think I was missing the fact that the executable bits would be
reset by default, so I couldn't see what would stop it from running, or
how simply checking the executable bit on the file before allowing it to
run could possibl
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David Baron posted on Tue, 21 May 2013 17:22:08 +0300 as excerpted:
> The Akonadi Kmail Mail folder resource is quite flakey, go "off line,"
> redded out very frequently requiring restarting kde.
>
> Removing this resource (cannot be done from kmail itself) and placing a
> local kmail maildir giv
Pablo Sanchez posted on Thu, 09 May 2013 09:52:56 -0400 as excerpted:
> [ Comments below, in-line ]
>
> On 05/09/2013 09:50 AM, Duncan wrote:
>> Duncan posted on Thu, 09 May 2013 06:06:12 + as excerpted:
>>
>>> Now I just have to permanently mount the hardware,
Duncan posted on Thu, 09 May 2013 06:06:12 + as excerpted:
> Now I just have to permanently mount the hardware, and reconfigure
> plasma and superkaramba and all my kwin hard-positioning rules... which
> will take some time and patience, but shouldn't be too terrible.
I
Mark Knecht posted on Wed, 08 May 2013 08:51:05 -0700 as excerpted:
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> OK, found meta-ctrl-F1 and meta-ctrl-F2 were free, and assigned them
>> under kcontrol, common appearance and behav
Duncan posted on Mon, 06 May 2013 04:52:34 + as excerpted:
> I will often deliberately move the mouse to the screen I want the window
> on then launch, if launching with hotkeys, or will click a link in my
> feed or list reader then immediately move the mouse to the screen where
>
en searching around
>>> on the web I see people doing it with Meta+F1, Meta+F2, etc., but
>>> somehow I am not discovering what Meta is.
>>>
>>> What's 'Meta'?
> Tom, Pable & Duncan,
>Thanks for the responses. They make sense and
bined size of my monitors, with
panning...) I now know how to get plasma to behave itself better in that
case than it seems to otherwise, and I can setup appropriate window rules
for kwin, to deal with it. Thus my experiment was a success and I now
know what the effect is on both kwin and plasma
ather obscure for a FLOSS project, these
days, so because it's not used much and some users wouldn't worry about
such a trivial thing as a name or even /like/ such MS-esque
names, few people are reporting the bug, and those that are haven't
caught the attention of the authors, s
ever be entirely happy
with that, or we'd not be running gentoo and LFS to begin with. Dale...
I'll let him speak for himself, but there's other reasons to run gentoo,
so maybe he's content to do the generic gentoo/kde policykit permissions,
and for him they're &
in as I
(emotionally, tho logically I know it isn't really so) sort of think that
I've never been in a major fire or other disaster because I try to be
prepared for them... could be seen as further support for why the kde-
frameworks upgrade will be rather smooth (at least for me)... bec
s they should be doing pretty early on in
the new concept if they're planning on doing it at all in ordered to
avoid getting locked in again, then I'll have big reason for continued
optimism. =:^)
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