[JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP at FOSSGIS in Berlin

2007-02-27 Thread Ugo Taddei
Hello everyone, I'll be reporting on OpenJUMP and derivates at the FOSSGIS 2007 Conference next month in Berlin: http://www.fossgis.de/wiki/index.php/Main_Page (German, only sorry :-( I'm taking the freedom to speak in name of this group and I'll be happy to include and mention any JUMP/OpenJU

Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP at FOSSGIS in Berlin

2007-02-27 Thread erwan bocher
Hi Ugo, How are u ? The french connection is come back. We started a document to list some openjump improvements. I don't if I have already informed you. The doc is available on google doc. Do u have a gmail account ? R1. On 2/27/07, Ugo Taddei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello everyone,

Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-devel] Re: [Geotools-devel] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-27 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei.. see my comments below Jody Garnett wrote: > PS. Ideas for any of these email lists are not a problem; from last > years experience I would recommend spending effort on making sure the > ideas are communicated well. > PS. CCing a bunch of lists does not work (everyone get's bounce > messa

Re: [JPP-Devel] Jump-pilot-devel Digest, Vol 9, Issue 32

2007-02-27 Thread jitendra
This is itendra Shah. (nominated 'Secreatry' of the OSGEO India. Frank knows me though others in the ist may or may not know me. I am proposing to move around a few colleges around here and get some faculty and students to undertake some projects. I am looking for such developed ideas and have bee

[JPP-Devel] Plan "A" For Supporting Plug-In Dependency

2007-02-27 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I spent an hour or so after work yesterday providing a more in-depth explanation of how I thought plug-in dependency might be supported in OpenJUMP. You can read that information on my OpenJUMP blog: http://openjump.blogspot.com/ I think it would only take me a few hours to implement Plan "A" in

[JPP-Devel] R: Plan "A" For Supporting Plug-In Dependency

2007-02-27 Thread P . Rizzi Ag . Mobilità Ambiente
Hi Landon, Plan "A" seems good, and I like how you wrote it down so clean!!! It only seems a little too "simple" and I always fear solutions that seems too "simple"... But often they prove to be winners in the end!!! I have one little change and two requirements to suggest for Plan "A". .) T

[JPP-Devel] R: R: Plan "A" For Supporting Plug-In Dependency

2007-02-27 Thread P . Rizzi Ag . Mobilità Ambiente
Thinking again about it, it may be that the new IPlugInDependency interface is not needed at all...!!! Plugins already have an initialize() method and inside it they may ask the core for another plugin they need, by "name". The core (or whatever part of the system is devoted to this) will ensur

Re: [JPP-Devel] Plan "A" For Supporting Plug-In Dependency

2007-02-27 Thread Larry Becker
Hi Sunburned, Congratulations on your Plan "A" concept. I see no theoretical reason why it couldn't be made to work. However, there can always be many practical reasons that any plan might fail during implementation, and since your Catalog example seems to be the only plugin that currently nee

Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP at FOSSGIS in Berlin

2007-02-27 Thread Larry Becker
Hi Ugo, You didn't mention Kosmo. I have just started looking at Kosmo's code and it is incredible. There are 1437 Java files in Kosmo compared to 948 in OpenJump, 897 in SkyJUMP, and 775 in JUMP. Besides the new data sources, the most exciting potential seems to be in their renderer (which I

Re: [JPP-Devel] R: Plan "A" For Supporting Plug-In Dependency

2007-02-27 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Paolo, Thank you for both of your comments. I will consider them carefully before moving on with any work on the plug-in dependency system. Landon On 2/27/07, P.Rizzi Ag.Mobilità Ambiente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Landon, Plan "A" seems good, and I like how you wrote it down so clean!!!

Re: [JPP-Devel] Plan "A" For Supporting Plug-In Dependency

2007-02-27 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Larry, Over the course of the next few weeks I will see if I can get this system into OpenJUMP-Ex for some testing. If it is something other developers think they can use, we can talk about integrating it into OpenJUMP after I have had a couple of months to work out the bugs. I didn't realize t

Re: [JPP-Devel] Plan "A" For Supporting Plug-In Dependency

2007-02-27 Thread Larry Becker
Sunburned, Actually, I'd be happy if I got a stack trace, but most of the time it just hangs up and you have to kill it from the task manager. You would think there would always be exception handling, but this seems to be one of the deeper class loader mysteries of which I am not an initiate.

Re: [JPP-Devel] Plan "A" For Supporting Plug-In Dependency

2007-02-27 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Thanks for that insight Larry. Landon On 2/27/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sunburned, Actually, I'd be happy if I got a stack trace, but most of the time it just hangs up and you have to kill it from the task manager. You would think there would always be exception handling,

Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP at FOSSGIS in Berlin

2007-02-27 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei guys, > Besides > the new data sources, the most exciting potential seems to be in their > renderer (which I have not tested yet.) i actually wondered what is the advance of heaving separate renderers for points, lines and polygons??? can somebody explain this? btw: if we would have a tea

Re: [JPP-Devel] [Geotools-devel] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-27 Thread James Macgill
On 2/27/07, Jody Garnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good timing - we were talking about this very topic in todays GeoTools > meeting. And arriving at a similar spot - that OSGeo would be the best > organization for the task. > > What we initial need however is someone on the "admin" side to get t

Re: [JPP-Devel] Plan "A" For Supporting Plug-In Dependency

2007-02-27 Thread Geoffrey G Roy
I would like to support Larry's comment about exceptions that occur during the initialization of a plugin. If they are not caught and handled then you are left with a process that must be killed from the task manager. My recent experience was with using the I18Nplug class for internationaliza

Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP at FOSSGIS in Berlin

2007-02-27 Thread Larry Becker
I can't explain it, but I can benchmark it. For the burlulc.shp redraw render speed benchmark (not counting time to load shape file): No color theming. uDig: 3 seconds. Kosmo: 5 seconds. gvSIG: 9 seconds. OpenJump, SkyJUMP: 13 seconds. with color theming on LUCODE uDig: 6 seconds. Kosm

Re: [JPP-Devel] Plan "A" For Supporting Plug-In Dependency

2007-02-27 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Geoff and Larry, Do you have any suggestions on how we can handle these Exceptions in the core differently to obtain the behavior you desire. If I am working on the PlugInManager class anyways I can take a look at how we might implement your suggestions. Landon On 2/27/07, Geoffrey G Roy <[EMA

Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP at FOSSGIS in Berlin

2007-02-27 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Larry, You make some interesting comments about Kosmo. We definitely need to see what we can do to work more closely with their team of developers. I haven't forgotten what I said previously about encouraging more collaborative development, and I hope to be doing some work in this area of the co

Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP at FOSSGIS in Berlin

2007-02-27 Thread David Zwiers
Some explanation may have to do with the rendering technology used: Jump uses Java 2D while Geotools (kosmos / udig) use direct draw (if I recall correctly). David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Becker Sent: February 27, 2007 4:18

Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP at FOSSGIS in Berlin

2007-02-27 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Does this mean that Kosmo implemented there own rendering logic? I think that is the path that UDig took, and I think it would be a real pain-in-the-neck to duplicate. Not to mention the fact that using the Java 2D API makes it easier for programmers to tool around with OpenJUMP's rendering system

Re: [JPP-Devel] [Geotools-devel] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-27 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Stefan, See my comments below. You wrote: "aehm.. we (JUMP) currently has a DXF plugin by Michael Michaud? Do you now this?" What about DWG? Why do you chosen this format (It is rather usefull for CAD Geometries than for GIS )" I know about the DXF plug-in and have looked at the code. I've even

Re: [JPP-Devel] [Geotools-devel] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-27 Thread Larry Becker
I just had a look at some of the ideas in the Google Summer of Code and I think it is going to be tough to win any students over from sexy projects like One Laptop Per Child to something as boring as GIS. Still, there must be some GIS programmer students out there somewhere so here is my two cents:

[JPP-Devel] Section For Collaborative Development At The JPP Wiki

2007-02-27 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I was able to do a little work on coordinating our coolaborative development efforts. I've added a section to the JPP Wiki that I hope will help us to track the changes between the different JUMP brands. This should help developers navigate the different code repositories. You can find the page fo

Re: [JPP-Devel] Section For Collaborative Development At The JPP Wiki

2007-02-27 Thread erwan bocher
Hi Sunburned, It's great idea but I'm quite lost. What a difference from the others web site ? http://www.openjump.org http://jump-pilot.sourceforge.net/index.html http://surveyos.sourceforge.net/ http://openjump.blogspot.com/ Isn't it possible to merge all forces on the same web page ? Concer