Re: [JPP-Devel] Vista Look and Feel

2007-08-23 Thread Uwe Dalluege
Hi Larry, at the weekend I will test it out because I have only a vista notebook at home. Regards, Uwe Larry Becker schrieb: > OK, I have done some preliminary analysis and need to report it in > case someone else is working this problem too. > > First the problem apparently applies only to a L

Re: [JPP-Devel] New OpenFile plugin

2007-08-23 Thread Uwe Dalluege
Hi Paul, you are right! Databases aren't files. But databases are a good concept to load and save datasets! We need a unique dialog to load and save datasets in files *and* databases. And we have good Load and Save functions (Load Dataset(s)... and Save Dataset As...)! The dialog is simple to use

Re: [JPP-Devel] Do we need an instance of Renderer for each object?

2007-08-23 Thread Larry Becker
These several different types of Layer renderer are really just components of FeatureCollectionRenderer which dynamically morphs from an ImageCachingFeatureCollectionRenderer to a SimpleFeatureCollectionRenderer whenever the number of features in the current window is less than 100. This gives re

Re: [JPP-Devel] Anyone working on LabelStyle

2007-08-23 Thread Geoffrey G Roy
Dear Stefan I sort of take the view that plugins are a way of testing ideas before they are committed to the core. This was partially behind my idea to run the small survey -(which btw has only had 20 or so responses) that might identify widely used/required functionality. Personally I would

Re: [JPP-Devel] Do we need an instance of Renderer for each object?

2007-08-23 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Thanks for adding some input Martin. I'm sure Larry is getting tired of trying to peel back the darkness over my mind. :] I was poking around the Javadoc, and it appears to me that you can't associate a Style with either the Layerable interface or the AbstractLayerable class. It appears that it is

Re: [JPP-Devel] need help for shifting tool

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Austin
Hi Michael, I'll try and put up a demo of the new docking framework at some point in the next week so we can use it as a discussion point for improving the UI. The framework allows you to dock window components but does not allow you do have docking toolbars which is what I think the person wante

Re: [JPP-Devel] Do we need an instance of Renderer for each object?

2007-08-23 Thread Martin Davis
Actually, I don't think rasters are different. In the implementation of raster I did, the renderer was a regular Style which simply painted the raster into the location on the screen defined by its bounding box. This was assisted substantially by the APIs for the various types of rasters, whi

Re: [JPP-Devel] Do we need an instance of Renderer for each object?

2007-08-23 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Larry, One more annoying question. :] If you can implement just about any custom rendering behavior with a Style, why are there several types of Renderer implementations in JUMP and OpenJUMP? Could these Renderers have been implemented with a Style as well? (I'm not trying to be argumentative, I

Re: [JPP-Devel] Do we need an instance of Renderer for each object?

2007-08-23 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
O.K. Larry. I can use a Style and an existing renderer like SimpleRenderer to paint custom vector geometry. What about raster geometry? Is this different? Thanks again. The Sunburned Surveyor On 8/23/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are really only two kinds of renderers I t

Re: [JPP-Devel] need help for shifting tool

2007-08-23 Thread Stefan Steiniger
aha.. and I guess I missed an email by Veer (...) seems really disappeared.. or I miss a list ;) Michaël Michaud schrieb: > Hi Stefan, > > Veer started a discussion about tab format on the jump discussion list, > then he wrote to me directly to have more information. > I think he uses kosmo, no

Re: [JPP-Devel] Do we need an instance of Renderer for each object?

2007-08-23 Thread Larry Becker
There are really only two kinds of renderers I think: vector geometry and raster. Mostly we are talking about geometry, right? If you have geometry, then you can style it anyway you want. In your example of the face of GW, I assume it would be located in the window by a geometry of point or per

Re: [JPP-Devel] Do we need an instance of Renderer for each object?

2007-08-23 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Larry wrote: "If you want a more participatory response, you'll need to explain why you think it is necessary to have a pluggable rendering system in the first place. The last discussion we had on the subject, I couldn''t see why a Style wouldn't be better suited for most applications." Fair enou

Re: [JPP-Devel] need help for shifting tool

2007-08-23 Thread Michaël Michaud
Hi Stefan, Veer started a discussion about tab format on the jump discussion list, then he wrote to me directly to have more information. I think he uses kosmo, not jump, but there are not so many differences. What I understand is that he would like the buttons on the left side of the table pane

Re: [JPP-Devel] File format plugins

2007-08-23 Thread Stefan Steiniger
note: i will forward your email to the users and jump-devel list. stefan Paul Austin schrieb: > MOEP is a format used by the BC government, not really that useful > except for my client. > > Paul > > Michaël Michaud wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Don't know if you want to count csv point file (Pirol) >> >

Re: [JPP-Devel] need help for shifting tool

2007-08-23 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Michael, where do you picked up that email? i realy don't get what he means? stefan Michaël Michaud schrieb: > Hi, > > I transfer your mail to Jump Pilot Project forum as there are more > people there to be able to give you help. > Jump Pilot Project hosts OpenJUMP project which is a bit d

Re: [JPP-Devel] New OpenFile plugin

2007-08-23 Thread Michaël Michaud
Stefan Steiniger a écrit : >>2. FileDataSourceQueryChooser that register with the >>DataSourceQueryChooserManager will automatically get added. The only one >>caveat is that I have no way to automatically get the options panel >>fields if one is defined for that type. Other than GML can you think

Re: [JPP-Devel] Network Installation

2007-08-23 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Uwe, unfortunately i have no idea where to and how to do, maybe someone else... stefan Uwe Dalluege schrieb: > Hi Larry, > > thank you for your tip :-) > But so I have to copy one file to 50 pc. > If the openjump.bat file has changed I must copy again :-( > It would be great to have an opti

Re: [JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-08-23 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Yep.. adding a help is necessary and we need to look how SIGLE (and Pirol?) has done that. but i am not sure about the pdf option? Maybe i did not really understand how you mean it. Do you want to open a browser with a web-page, so that someone can download it.. or do you want an integrated pd

Re: [JPP-Devel] New OpenFile plugin

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Austin
Stefan, Databases aren't files so wouldn't be loaded by the Open File Plugin I'll have a look at the Pirol stuff to see what is there. I saw Michael's MIF plugin has some options. Paul Stefan Steiniger wrote: >> 2. FileDataSourceQueryChooser that register with the >> DataSourceQueryChooserMana

Re: [JPP-Devel] New OpenFile plugin

2007-08-23 Thread Stefan Steiniger
> > 2. FileDataSourceQueryChooser that register with the > DataSourceQueryChooserManager will automatically get added. The only one > caveat is that I have no way to automatically get the options panel > fields if one is defined for that type. Other than GML can you think of > any plugins that req

Re: [JPP-Devel] Do we need an instance of Renderer for each object?

2007-08-23 Thread Larry Becker
Landon, See my comments below: On 8/23/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Larry, > > This is all very helpful. I'm glad you confirmed #1, #2, and #3 for me. :] > > You wrote: "Don't try to save memory by sharing renderers. We are only > talking about a few words of memory and

Re: [JPP-Devel] Do we need an instance of Renderer for each object?

2007-08-23 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Larry, This is all very helpful. I'm glad you confirmed #1, #2, and #3 for me. :] You wrote: "Don't try to save memory by sharing renderers. We are only talking about a few words of memory and whatever data structure you use instead will need to store the same data." Here is the problem I'm try

Re: [JPP-Devel] File format plugins

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Austin
MOEP is a format used by the BC government, not really that useful except for my client. Paul Michaël Michaud wrote: > Hi, > > Don't know if you want to count csv point file (Pirol) > > I also wrote a GeoConcept Reader/writer (see > http://geo.michaelm.free.fr/ecrire/?exec=articles&id_article=4)

Re: [JPP-Devel] File format plugins

2007-08-23 Thread Michaël Michaud
Hi, Don't know if you want to count csv point file (Pirol) I also wrote a GeoConcept Reader/writer (see http://geo.michaelm.free.fr/ecrire/?exec=articles&id_article=4) The MIF driver doesn't work anymore, but there is not much work to make it work... Please, what is MOEP ? Michaël Paul Austi

Re: [JPP-Devel] Do we need an instance of Renderer for each object?

2007-08-23 Thread Larry Becker
Hi SS, I'll just state some things that I believe are true: 1. contendID is just a Layer cast to Object. 2. If you have 50 layers then it would follow that you have 50 contentID objects. 3. Every layer gets its own instantiation of a LayerRenderer or WMSLayerRenderer or whatever. 4. Almost all o

[JPP-Devel] Do we need an instance of Renderer for each object?

2007-08-23 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
That question probably reflects my ignorance of OpenJUMP's rendering system and Java threading. But I'm hoping some of the more experienced programmers can help me out. It seems that OpenJUMP currently stores a separate instance of the Renderer interface for each object (contentID) that needs to b

Re: [JPP-Devel] Anyone working on LabelStyle

2007-08-23 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Geoff, at some point we definitevly need to port your adhancements to the core. But up to now I was not sure if you want that (for maintenance reasons) stefan Larry Becker schrieb: > Hi Geoff, > >I've played around with offset distance and HTML formatting on > labels too. Perhaps we'll

Re: [JPP-Devel] need help for shifting tool

2007-08-23 Thread Michaël Michaud
Hi, I transfer your mail to Jump Pilot Project forum as there are more people there to be able to give you help. Jump Pilot Project hosts OpenJUMP project which is a bit different from kosmo. So you may want to post a feature request to kosmo team too. For OpenJUMP, the Feature Request list is h

Re: [JPP-Devel] Network Installation

2007-08-23 Thread Uwe Dalluege
Hi Larry, thank you for your tip :-) But so I have to copy one file to 50 pc. If the openjump.bat file has changed I must copy again :-( It would be great to have an option inside the file where I can manage the temporary files OpenJUMP creates. Greetings from Hamburg, Uwe Larry Becker schrieb:

[JPP-Devel] File format plugins

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Austin
Does anyone know of any file based readers and writers or Image plugins for JUMP not included in the following list? *Raster* ECW - Standard GeoTiff/Tiff + World - Standard JPG, PNG, JPG - Standard MrSID -Standard *Vector* ESRI Shapefile - Standard WKT - Standard FME GML - Standard GML 2.0 - Stan

Re: [JPP-Devel] Anyone working on LabelStyle

2007-08-23 Thread Larry Becker
Hi Geoff, I've played around with offset distance and HTML formatting on labels too. Perhaps we'll get there. I am changing the code base a little at a time to judge the response and keep backward compatibility with project files. regards, Larry Becker On 8/23/07, Geoffrey G Roy <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [JPP-Devel] Network Installation

2007-08-23 Thread Larry Becker
Hi Uwe, Interesting use case. I've searched OJ's code, but haven't found anything similar the the -properties option for the workbench-properties.xml file. I could probably put in an option to do that fairly easily. There is a work around that might work. If you copy the openjump.bat (or .s

Re: [JPP-Devel] Open Recent Project Plugin

2007-08-23 Thread Larry Becker
Oops, its: http://openjump.org/wiki/show/SkyJUMP+-+OpenJUMP+Synchronization Larry On 8/23/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Larry, > > Can you send me the link to that list. > > Cheers, > Paul > > Larry Becker wrote: > > Hi Paul, > > > > Wow! GMTA. :-) Perhaps you should take a lo

Re: [JPP-Devel] Open Recent Project Plugin

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Austin
Larry, Can you send me the link to that list. Cheers, Paul Larry Becker wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Wow! GMTA. :-) Perhaps you should take a look at the SkyJUMP > OpenJump Synchronization list that I am working my way through to see > if there are other conflicts. > > Larry > > On 8/23/07, Paul A

[JPP-Devel] Network Installation

2007-08-23 Thread Uwe Dalluege
Hi, we are using OpenJUMP with about 50 PC (50 users). So I have installed the bin and lib directory on a server one time and made a link from the openjump.bat file on every PC. OpenJUMP creates and change the file workbench-state.xml in the bin directory. So I can not use the network installation

Re: [JPP-Devel] Open Recent Project Plugin

2007-08-23 Thread Larry Becker
Hi Paul, Wow! GMTA. :-) Perhaps you should take a look at the SkyJUMP OpenJump Synchronization list that I am working my way through to see if there are other conflicts. Larry On 8/23/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Larry, > > Weird timing I had just written an Open Recent p

[JPP-Devel] About embedded help

2007-08-23 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Hi all, I have a sort of request/idea for a future development of OJ. I am writiung a small PDF doc with all the essentil things about OJ: List of functions, tools, editing toolbox, Change style and attribute value. I image that this doc could work as an embedded help if it is possible to ope

Re: [JPP-Devel] Anyone working on LabelStyle .... what about point Style?

2007-08-23 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Hi all, Geoff's plugin works fine for labels. What we (Users) miss is a pointstyle: the possibility to display different point symbols according to attribute values. Does somebody care about? Peppe Geoffrey G Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: Dear Larry I am pleased to see an i

Re: [JPP-Devel] New OpenFile plugin

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Austin
Hi Stefan, 1. The second and third steps are skipped if they are not required, so you will just see the Finish button in these cases (shp, WKT, JML are theses cases). 2. FileDataSourceQueryChooser that register with the DataSourceQueryChooserManager will automatically get added. The only one cave

Re: [JPP-Devel] New OpenFile plugin

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Austin
Hi Michael, The problem with the previous open file plugin is that it only works well for a single file in the case where you have an option that can potentially be different for each file you select (e.g. the GML 2 plugin requires a template file which is different for each schema). Also there is

Re: [JPP-Devel] Open Recent Project Plugin

2007-08-23 Thread Paul Austin
Hi Larry, Weird timing I had just written an Open Recent plugin that works both on Files and on Projects. The plug-in has the following features. 1. Plug-in has one instance per WorkbenchContext enforced using plugin.get(workbenchContext) uses blackboard to maintain instance (threa

[JPP-Devel] Correct use of Spatial Join of Geometries

2007-08-23 Thread Uwe Dalluege
Hi, the functions in Tools>Queries>Spatial Query and Tools>Analysis>Geometry functions... have a Source- and a Mask-Layer. (Source and Mask). If I am right the Result of the queries are out of the Source-Layer. For example: The Source-Layer contains plot of lands (polygons) and the Mask-Layer co