Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread Jenn V.
JoAnne Abbott wrote: > Since Ms Rosenberg did indeed offend me with the language I will > attempt to reply civilly. And I'll attempt not to respond to /this/ remark as I feel it deserves. > Point A. No I don't know all about the inner workings of the present day > internet. All I remember about

[issues] Standards - Palo Alto

2000-06-30 Thread Jenn V.
BTW: Almost nothing that Palo Alto did conformed to the standards of the day. Yet that doesn't seem to have stopped what Palo Alto did from becoming extremely successful now. Of course, it hasn't done Xerox a whole lot of good. But that's beside the point. The point being that standards don'

Re: [issues] Standards - Palo Alto

2000-06-30 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Jenn V. wrote: > Almost nothing that Palo Alto did conformed to the standards of > the day. Yet that doesn't seem to have stopped what Palo Alto did > from becoming extremely successful now. Well, the Xerox PARC meme of the WIMP interface certainly caught on. > Of course,

Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread JoAnne Abbott
- Original Message - From: "Jenn V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!! > JoAnne Abbott wrote: > > > Since Ms Rosenberg did indeed offend me with the language I will > > attempt to reply civilly. >

Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread Caitlyn Máire Martin
Hi, > > A protocol is a generalised consensus of the way something is done. > You mean to say that TCP/IP (a networking protocol) is just a consensus? Not hardly. I dare say protocols have *and must have* rigid definitions of how things are done in order to work. They are not even necessarily ac

Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread kelly
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:17:24 +1000, "Jenn V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>JoAnne Abbott C.E.T. MSEE, DSM >Ahem. > Lots of letters after her name. I'm impressed. >Is this an attempt to use the 'appeal-to-authority' logical fallacy? My mother commented once that there is an inverse relation b

RE: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread Fan, Laurel
[moving to techtalk to conform to the topic "standards"] Yeah, who needs standards? Why adhere to the outdated, archaic standards of punctuation and grammar when I can nNOvate by writinglike this??!?!?!!!1!! Why bother with the standard method of quoting by prepending a character to each li

Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread JoAnne Abbott
!!Hooray !! A rebuttal that requires me to think deep about a response. - Original Message - From: "Caitlyn Máire Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!! > Hi, > > > > A protocol is a gener

RE: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread Fan, Laurel
[moving to techtalk. can we please stay on topic here?] JoAnne Abbott, [EMAIL PROTECTED], said: > The standards are preventing me from making a 128 bit direct connection > to a video chip as a innovation. I don't have enough room on the worktable > for Four motherboards. No. You are wrong. Th

Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread Jenn V.
JoAnne Abbott wrote: > Jenn V wrote: > > Could you define the difference between a protocol and a standard? > > A protocol is a generalised consensus of the way something is done. > > A standard is so many meters, liters or lines of code. Sorry, I disagree with these definitions. A (computi

Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread Julie
From: JoAnne Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > - Original Message - > From: "Caitlyn Máire Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > You mean to say that TCP/IP (a networking protocol) is just a consensus? > > Not hardly. I dare say protocols have *and must have* rigid definitions > of > > how things ar

RE: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread Lothan
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Fan, Laurel > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:16 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!! > > There are no standards in the computing world. They're all agreements. > There is no

Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread Julie
From: Lothan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > Behalf Of Fan, Laurel > > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:16 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!! > > > > There are no standards in the computing

Re: [techtalk] Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread Jenn V.
Julie wrote: > Methinks she is referring to people with guns and clubs who have the > authority to make you use certain programs and protocols. > > And no, Bill Gates hasn't bought the US Army yet. Next week, maybe. > But so far he hasn't. Maybe. But the US army has no authority to make ME use