Re: [issues] Despotic Demographics RANT (LONG)

1999-12-31 Thread Caitlyn Martin
Hi, > > > I am a geek who has answered the phone and been asked to pass the > > caller on to 'someone who understands technical matters'. > > That sucks. Yep, and Jenn is hardly unique. Some of our male peers in the field also encourage this attitude, or practice it themselves. > > > I am a geek

Re: [issues] Despotic Demographics RANT (LONG)

1999-12-31 Thread Robert Kiesling
"Caitlyn Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the most carefully controlled environment, with nothing left to chance, > any given > > organism will do exactly as it damn well pleases > > This is immutable? Unchangeable? I thought you were promoting the idea of > education. If this last

Re: [issues] Despotic Demographics RANT (LONG)

1999-12-31 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:45:43 -0500, Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Excuse me for butting in. I think that philosophy he's describing is >called "positivism," which does not allow credit for rational >choices. I think Ayn Rand popularized it (probably in the previous >millenium, by

Re: [issues] Despotic Demographics RANT (LONG)

1999-12-31 Thread Robert Kiesling
Kelly Lynn Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I find truly amazing is that Rand was female. Why? Females are just as capable of being facists as men are. Historically, the record is dominated by males, however. Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Despotic Demographics RANT (LONG)

1999-12-31 Thread Kathleen Weaver
I sympathize with the rant, because I am a super geek, married to a geek, fortunately most of the time, those who do know us know that I am the super geek At the same time, I've been put down more times than can be counted as an amateur radio operator, since I seem to be one of the very few wome