ty to detect the nature of the
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unhandled exception, parse error - maybe, exit(n), etc.)
Is this possible?
If so, some suggestions would be nice.
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> as PHPUnit (for which I could really use this functionality), we
> > agreed
> > that it actually belongs into the core.
> >
> > Opinions? Needless to say that I would love to see this in PHP
> > 5.3 ;-)
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You're code looks like a factory. Is that your intention? Maybe
__factory would be a more obvious name?
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om 5.3 and up.
>
> Comments?
>
> Cheers,
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Would making the windows compiler MS VC++ Express Edition be a
"better" solution? That way you have what is considered a "free" MS
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> > just an alias for String#slice, prefer this "crappy unreadable syntax"
> > over a "nice and clear" method call. One starts to wonder ...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Stefan
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ing PHP and missing things like type hinting of
scalars AND overloaded function defs is a pain as I now have 1 method
with a header which has to parse the parameter types to determine what
is required to be called.
I think this is a GREAT feature. Even if it was JUST for E_STRICT OOP code.
-
my
lack of understanding of some of the sometimes quite basic concepts of
the new PHD documentation system.
As I have in my signature, I am "Standing on the shoulders of some
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h one of the above more
> readable? You decide:)
>
> - Timm
As the PHP Documentation may have to is starting adding multiple
signatures (Docbook has no mechanism if grouping optional parameters
it seems), it seems only fair that PHP itself should (flame-retardant
suit fully fitted) &q
ature, along with property accessibility via some sort of
read/write mechanism would be more useful to me than some other
features (like cough-cough unicode cough-cough).
It is something I am familiar with in other languages.
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Hi.
Last build for V5.3 at Nov 03, 2007 20:30 UTC
The next build says "PHP 5.3 Win32 in please consult /dev/urandom".
What is this really saying?
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Hey!
Does anyone other than me care?
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ribute binaries for linux and similar distributions, however they
> > do provide links to external distribution sites. What's to stop
> > Microsoft from distributing non-thread-safe 2005 builds (obviously
> > optimized for IIS) on their own servers - and why couldn't the
me - if
> > the benefit can be expressed.
>
> Are you assuming a Windows user is a rarity? lol
No, I would guess that most people who INTERACT with PHP are windows
users. Most people who CODE PHP with are probably NOT windows users.
So, more *nix webservers, but more IE browsers.
"Prove the benefit! Enhance the world!" (to suckingly paraphrase Heroes).
>
> - Steph
>
>
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files from Microsoft" with a link to the files
you are still going to get users complaining that their PHP doesn't
work.
Just like the number of bogus Doc bugs for the CHM being downloaded
via IE (See the warning on http://www.php.net/download-docs.php).
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lean (false), they are
all the same, so does this mean we would be having to cast all the
params to the function/method?
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > type_hint_integer(new Integer(123));
> > > type_hint_string(new String("string"));
> > > type_hint_float(new Float(0.25));
> > >
> >
> > Nice implementation, so ? Still more code to include in yo
d it be worth stating specifically that a post-max-size of zero
inhibits $_POST/$_FILES?
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ch redundant code from some frameworks. :)
> > So this is one of my examples that helps much.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marco Kaiser
> >
>
>
>
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returns ...
object(foo)#1 (0) {
}
object(bar)#2 (0) {
}
object(foo)#1 (0) {
}
object(bar)#2
On 23/11/2007, Richard Quadling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 22/11/2007, Marco Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > to explain the main idea a bit more, the code below work and moves the
> > main getInstance function from the clas
>
Changing bar to extend from foo gives the same results.
We have a singleton of the class bar because somewhere in the chain it
has the singleton class.
Excellent.
>
> Friday, November 23, 2007, 10:21:51 AM, you wrote:
>
> > On 23/11/2007, Richard Quadling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
even saying they are going to ruin the game,
just that you have the option of not including their code!).
The idea of a major world player contributing to our lill' old PHP
sounds really exciting. The more the merrier, as long as the
peer-review process works (and it seems to have kept me out of t
> private
> > > properties and methods should be OK to be extended into the child class,
> > but
> > > currently that's not the case, and there is also a bug here, consider
> > the
> > > following example:
> >
> > The child class is anot
On 07/12/2007, Lokrain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I just wanted to drop an opp. Just to see the logic, when we have
> programming structure class, interface, function, if statement, switch
> statement etc, we have bracers encapsulation. This is the logic that most
> programming lan
to an old issue with the windows command line intepreter.
Then, we would have some progress.
;-{}}}
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Wouldn't break backwards as -+ are not allowed in a param name.
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On 13/12/2007, Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're all just proving my point by replying to this stupid thread.
> Thank you for that. :D
Spleen venting provides a calming effect on one's nerves.
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this would be more appealing ...
array_filter($my_data as $test) {
return 4 === ($test % 4);
}
This sort of looks like a foreach, which is extremely readable.
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eem
to be a suitable way to go.
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value checks if they are appropriate.
So, function x(string $s, int $i) will get a string and an integer, no
matter what is sent.
Thinking about this, simply because we all know PHP __CAN__ type
juggle, there is no need for any errors/warnings/notices on scalar
types. It will be up to the API de
Hi.
Not sure if anyone ever reads my posts, but ...
The 5.2 builds are building fine.
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ad with that patch.
> >>
> >> Can you also please add tests for both?
> >>
> >> marcus
> >>
> >> Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 7:51:06 PM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> >> the square bracket array syntax patch for PHP 5.3,
> >> >> http
gest? :)
>
> I suggest to wait until we find a better syntax.
> I do not suggest any syntax myself because I do not see any need in this
> 'nowdoc' thing at all.
>
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As we may be missing a trick, how do you create strings which have $
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The win32 snapshot builds have been done since Jan 20/21, so maybe
there is more than 1 library to fix
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inside track?
Its a shame that their is not a legal understanding of the spirit of
the law, rather than just the letter of the law.
If their is no CLA, what are the alternatives?
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and this allows any of them.
>
> Anyone who is against this must also be against the array type hint, it
> is pretty much the same just in reverse.
>
> What do you think?
>
> On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 09:41 +, Richard Quadling wrote:
> > On 07/01/2008, Stefan Priebsch <
the technical merits
> of it. It was just simply about some people saying "I don't like it" and thus
> concluding that it should not be added.
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>
> - Steph
Ha, PDO_MSSQL didn't even make it onto the rare list. Am I the only
one daft enough to try and get Doctrine to work with MSSQL? Seems like
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>
> Stefan
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version check (or function_exists).
>
> Anyway, enough people has voiced their wishes. I will count the votes
> and post the summary on Monday (== you still have two days to vote, if
> you care).
>
> Cheers,
Aren't some things just worth the BC break?
Having never used them
me functionality as non CLI.
So, if you can please allow PATH= for CLI (rather than just assume it
is of no use and ignoring it).
I can't think of how I would use HOST= in CLI, unless maybe you could
get the machine's name (stretching for an idea here).
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"""""""""""""""""""""
>
> Instead of declaring the Trait composition in the class body, it could be
> defined in the class prologue like this::
>
>trait Hello {
>pub
s moved to false, it is
> deleted, but this leads to the wrong impression of this:
> "trait_method => new_name" means trait_method is moved to new_name,
> and I am absolutely against this notion.
>
> Kind Regards
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What would you all read this to be ...
s the knowledge required to understand Unicode going to be easier
to attain than for traits?
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supposed to do.
And then lets add accessibility to class properties without magic functions.
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fic
> trait, i.e., it is composition local.
>
> Just an additional though :)
>
> Kind Regards
> Stefan
I think I see an issue with including properties.
If a trait is partially included at different levels of a layered object
base uses 2 methods of a trait.
extended uses
// Maybe these are all the same method.
$this->CTalker::DTalker::dTalk();
$this->CTalker::dTalk();
$this->dTalk();
}
}
Traits as namespaces would solve the issue of conflict in the class
Talker (you would have to explicitly say which trait the method came
from.
I do
allTalk(); // This should be 'b'.
Wouldn't traits as namespaces solve this?
It seems like an ideal solution.
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On 27/02/2008, Stefan Marr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> Richard Quadling schrieb:
>
> > Traits as namespaces would solve the issue of conflict in the class
> > Talker (you would have to explicitly say which trait the method came
> > from.
>
ers, I'm using Win32 PHP5.3.0-dev snapshot built on Mar
4 2008 04:17:22.
I only recently upgraded the PHP dev, and as far as I can tell this is
a new problem, so I'm thinking prior to the upgrade, it worked OK,
i.e. the BOM was dropped by PHP.
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On 21/03/2008, Elizabeth M Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wow, noisy...
And having made the commit to the dox before the revert, I'm still
reeling/reading to try and see which way I would go...
> I'd argue that a the difference" between the ugliness of the long version and the need to
> no
>
>
> This still will works.
Surely it shouldn't work at all unless the $foo === $this?
I understand that the checking is based upon the class and not the instance.
Shouldn't the instance be the limiting factor?
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On 26/03/2008, Richard Quadling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 25/03/2008, Felipe Pena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Em Ter, 2008-03-25 às 12:35 +0100, Lars Strojny escreveu:
> >
> > > Would that mean that the following code does not work an
the closing tag also require the quotes (none/single/double)
depending upon how the opening tag was quoted (or not)?
And is "double-quoting" going to be in addition to no quoting?
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es and not classes. Whilst I accept that this is the way it is,
it doesn't FEEL right that one instance of class foo can call a
protected member of class bar because class bar extended class foo
along the way.
If they were static calls, that SORT of makes more sense to me.
I suppose this
On 04/04/2008, Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're about year too late..or even more. Please, don't just this
> discussion now.
Is there use case that can be used for the documentation?
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PHP4 had it but in a different way).
The PHP way is, at best, how thing were done until enough people
wanted it and it is now how things are done.
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o it in userland.
About the only time juggling is effective is in string concatenation.
And even then it misses booleans! Do I get "true"/"false"? No I get
nothing or 1. So I have to process it.
Type juggling just doesn't seem to fit well with me.
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> =========
Is that over an hour for the tests? Or is the formatting off?
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e a friend of
> mine test the issue in Linux to make sure it's not just a Windows issue.
> I'll get back to you about that.
I get the problem with Sambar Server V7.0 using ISAPI.
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"), &tsm_err, &tsm_errmsg, headers,
subject, to, message, NULL, NULL, NULL TSRMLS_CC) == FAILURE) {
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args or do
> we go the road "if hint args, then hint them all!" (I'm personaly for second
> one - be strict)
>
It may be that a parameter CAN be mixed, so a lack of a type hint
should be supported even if strict type hinting is used/implemented.
Maybe a type hint of mixed
t SDKs\Windows\v6.1\include\sdkddkver.h(186).
This 1 #define causes a LOT of noise during compilation. I know I
could suppress all the warnings, but with so much noise, how does
anyone see the true warnings in the noise?
By adding a #undef _WIN32_WINNT before #define _WIN32_WINNT 0x0400,
this r
l/php_libxml2.def
I did not find any mention of it in /php_build.
If it is a case of just an old zip.zip, where do I get a more uptodate one?
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On 22/04/2008, Antony Dovgal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 22.04.2008 15:01, Richard Quadling wrote:
>
> > Another warning is that some of the constants are redefined to a
> > different value from the ones that are part of the compiler. The
> > /TRSM/readdir.h,
get 5.3 to compile or not.
This will only be a problem when using a MS compiler which supplies a
_WIN32_WINNT > 0x0400.
And as I'm following the new PHP documentation on compiling PHP for
windows, I hope this gets in.
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I am using Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition with the Windows
Server 2008 and .NET 3.4 SDK.
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hat exactly is broken. We may just
> need to rebuild some of the things in zip.zip again.
>
> Scott
>
>
> Richard Quadling wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > The recent commit to TSRM/readdir.h isn't quite right.
> >
> > The later versions o
curl_init' : 'void' function returning a value
> c:\php-compile\php-5.2.6rc5\ext\curl\interface.c(1099) :
> warning C4098: 'zif_curl_init' : 'void' function returning a value
> c:\php-compile\php-5.2.6rc5\ext\curl\interface.c(1099) :
> warning C4098: &
Hello.
The 5.3.0-dev win32 snapshots are failing as there has been no update
since the 25th.
Is it possible to send the make log file to snaps for all build
attempts rather than just successful ones.
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s expected behaviour? Please don't focus on just TSRM/readdir.h
as this was one file I picked at random (as I had edited it recently).
Should editing ANY source level file (.h, .c type files) result in a make?
Or is it just .c files?
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dimensions.
Ideally the interface should also have a read only property of area,
but the support of properties in an interface is disputed here. In
this limited example, it would seem useful.
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ed for later today...
>
>
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With the updated libraries being part of the PHP , does that mean
zip.zip has been updated also?
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2008/4/30 Pierre Joye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> hi,
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Richard Quadling
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2008/4/30 Pierre Joye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:58 PM, R
ike this would be global and
> might mess up some code written elsewhere. Mind you: any programmer
> going '$a == $b' on true floating point has got to expect rubbish.
>
> This is making things easier for the naive/novice programmer. In this case
> I don't think that i
uot;. Well,
Cobol has VERY good money types. It would strike me as VERY funny to
go back to cobol to do accurate financial calculations.
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class
> library in PHP and go for extension later. I'm sure there are some code
> around doing this already :)
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Is it not possib
cing the user to define four accessors for a
> property seems to be clutter but it would be - technically spoken -
> correct. I don't have a fixed opinion here.
>
> cu, Lars
>
You would only normally need to define the four accessors if your
property isn't a bog standard
appropriate to allow the unsetting of property bar.
My reasoning is that the interface says this is how all objects
implementing this interface look (the contract), then allowing one of
the instances to remove the property breaks the contract.
If you follow this (I hope someone does), then as a consequen
d line will use the built-in one first.
The attached patch forces the use of 'rd' rather than 'rmdir'.
Cygwin's rmdir.exe doesn't support /s or /q
Windows rd does.
Obviously no cygwin === no rmdir rename required.
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2008/5/7 Hannes Magnusson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Richard Quadling
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi.
> [..]
>
> > The attached patch forces the use of 'rd' rather than 'rmdir'.
>
> Only plain/tex
x27;s behaviour fail (windows rd doesn't support --parents
--ignore-fail-on-non-empty, etc).
By using rd, this isn't found in the path by nmake and runs correctly
with the windows/dos options.
You can use filemon to see nmake hunting for rmdir.xxx where xxx is
the contents of PATHEX
DIR=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC
VS90COMNTOOLS=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\Common7\Tools\
+VSINSTALLDIR=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0
windir=C:\WINDOWS
+WindowsSdkDir=C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.1\
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Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 9.00.21022.08
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Cleaning PECL targets only
rmdir /s /q Release_TS\pecl
You are running "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\Lib\rmdir.BAT"
The paramete
2008/5/9 Hector Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Richard Quadling wrote:
>
>> You don't actually need to install cygwin to see the fault.
>>
>> Create a batch file called rmdir.bat like this ...
>>
>
> But this is not what you have in the production
t/unsub.php
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It seems that nmake searches the path for all the shell commands ...
echo, del, etc.
Using this simple makefile ...
all: clean
clean:
@echo hello world
@md bob
-rmdir bob /q /s
Using my path and pathexts, nmake made 420 searches for echo..
Adding the $(COMSPEC
;> Richard.
For scalars and accessible properties, unset() does indeed undeclare
the scalar/property.
results in Notice: Undefined variable: foo in C:\- on line 5
and
bar = 'snafu';
}
}
$o_Foo = new foo();
echo $o_Foo->bar;
unset($o_Foo->bar);
echo $o_Foo->bar;
nce, so it must always exist and as such unset() would/should
have no meaning and be an error (attempting to change an enforced
interface structure).
Maybe this is a difference for E_STRICT?
Richard.
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file should be allowed? And if there is an extension on the filename,
then it will also have a .
What happens for relative filenames?
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2008/5/14 Gregory Beaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Richard Quadling wrote:
>> 2008/5/13 Antony Dovgal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> On 13.05.2008 01:45, Gregory Beaver wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks to all who have contributed, particularly Marcus, Ste
er be true. So if you
are using E_STRICT, should parsing an interface with unset and isset
defined also produce an E_STRICT error?
interface foo {
public bar read fReadBar, write fWriteBar;
}
would work (ignoring syntax please), whereas the previous interface
definition could produce the E_STR
2008/5/19 Christian Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Richard Quadling wrote:
>> (Not E_STRICT) If error_reporting does not include E_STRICT, then
>> unset()'ting properties defined in interfaces is allowed and operates
>> exactly as it does on normal variabl
> public bar read fReadBar, write fWriteBar;
>> }
>
> You really don't want to make read and write keywords ;)
I did say ignore my syntax. I don't know what the syntax is going to
be, so I used something obvious.
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ows, 5.3.0-dev
gives a E_DEPRECATED error for get_magic_quotes_runtime().
Richard.
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', 'jim');
outputs ...
Array
(
[required] => fred
[optional] => snafu (Default)
[also_optional] => sins (Default)
)
Array
(
[required] => bob
[optional] => jim
[also_optional] => sins (Default)
)
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sing $a = [] over $a = array()
So, for a userland developer (rather than a core developer) -1.
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t/bug.php?id=34671
http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=35961
http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=25361
(There may be others.)
Until now.
What changed?
Can someone please check out #15818, #43784 with the patch at #43261
Thanks.
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gt; out the BC issues arising from that as far as is possible?
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as a change from 5.2.x to 5.3.0
Personally, I love the fix. I now have the same exec statements for
windows and unix. We are in sync!
But as Hannes put it IIRC ...
"bjori> RichardQ: which means that the fix broke 10years worth of
userland windows fixes"
Hm. Can't please a
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