PHP 5.3 appears (to me at least) ready for release, give or take a bit of
ironing.
Win32 mail() doesn't.
That's 'a bit of ironing'. The point of the post was:
So can we focus on 6 for a bit please? Like, make it Unicode-only and
iron
out the BC issues arising from that as far as is possib
Hi,
I suppose this has been discussed before, so I'll not repeat reasons unless
requested, but I just want to offer a possible feature to mitigate the impact
of "one namespace per file", which doesn't have controversial syntax and
hopefully less difficulties in the implementation:
class Fully
Hi Sebastian,
Am Freitag, den 30.05.2008, 18:23 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Deutsch:
[...]
> Nonetheless I feel that the userland is less represented on the
> internals list - do you have a proposal to hear their voice?
Well, they can subscribe, can't they?
http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php
cu,
what I find really annoying about all this namespace stuff, is how would
that be any different from
class Fully_Qualified_Class_Name_Declaration { }
/James
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Stan Vassilev | FM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I suppose this has been discussed before, so I'l
Hi,
The community wanted namespaces. This is not exactly the namespaces it wanted,
but since they're going in, I think the best course of action is to solve the
big obvious problems so they are at least usable and extendable in future
versions of PHP.
If you have to ask *me* personally, I'd no
I would agree with you, I think namespaces should wait for a later version.
Maybe 6 or even later. I believe there are many problems that need to be
sorted be namespaces hit release.
Maybe we could do something like so.
namespace Fully::Qualified::Class::Name class Declaration extends Whatever
im
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 03:51:25PM +0300, Stan Vassilev | FM wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The community wanted namespaces. This is not exactly the namespaces it
> wanted, but since they're going in, I think the best course of action is to
> solve the big obvious problems so they are at least usable and exte
Hi,
Your suggestion seems ok too, anything is better than *no functioning way at
all to do it*.
Regards,
Stan Vassilev
- Original Message -
From: James Dempster
To: Stan Vassilev | FM
Cc: internals@lists.php.net
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DE
Hi I'm a new php programmer and i think that the first thing to think
about is code readability and clarity.
I think that this discussion looks like a grandfathers argument
against new music and fashion, but every one (including grandpa)
knows its vital for the communities evolution.
Why keep a wo
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Christopher Jones
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hannes (or anyone),
>
> Can you apply these patches for pear? I've reverted to use wget
> by default. The newish fetch.php is used as a last resort.
Thanks for the patch!, and sorry for not having fixed it sooner
I'm +1 btw
/Hans Åhlin
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I'm +1 btw
/Hans Åhlin
Not like they will be listened to unless they are "commiters".
-Chris
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Lars Strojny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> Am Freitag, den 30.05.2008, 18:23 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Deutsch:
> [...]
> > Nonetheless I feel that the userland is less represent
Hello Lars,
for an ambitious userland developer it is not very easy to follow this
list and even join the
discussions (though I think it's worth).
Maybe there should be a point where some discussions from internals
should be taken to lang - better
not this one, I don't want to fuel the fire a
Hi Chris,
Am Samstag, den 31.05.2008, 08:42 -0700 schrieb Chris Stockton:
> Not like they will be listened to unless they are "commiters".
They are heard. The issue is, as always in programming, you want to do
an informed decision. That's why I don't like architecture astronauts,
as they aren't r
Hi,
I'm trying to write an extension that(running under php in fcgi mode)
does the equivalent of
-php.ini
auto_prepend_file = start.inc
auto_append_file = end.inc
-start.inc
ob_start()
-end.inc
$len = ob_get_length()
// modify buffer slightly based on length value
// php prints final buffer
On Saturday 31 May 2008, James Dempster wrote:
> I would agree with you, I think namespaces should wait for a later version.
> Maybe 6 or even later. I believe there are many problems that need to be
> sorted be namespaces hit release.
>
> Maybe we could do something like so.
>
> namespace Fully::Q
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Larry Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Saturday 31 May 2008, James Dempster wrote:
> > I would agree with you, I think namespaces should wait for a later
> version.
> > Maybe 6 or even later. I believe there are many problems that need to be
> > sorted be n
Hi,
I was trying to test building openssl shared, and ran into an unexported
symbol issue because the arginfo constant arrays are never exported for
dll/so use. Could someone check out this patch and make sure it doesn't
fubar windows in particular? The same patch will apply in all branches
just
Hi!
PHP 5.3 appears (to me at least) ready for release, give or take a bit of
ironing.
I was under impression parser multibyte support wasn't yet fixed. Was it?
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Hi!
If you have to ask *me* personally, I'd not put namespaces in 5.3 and
have a big discussion about the entire implementation. But alas.
The thing is there already were discussions. And I don't see how
discussing endlessly but not doing anything is going to make things better.
--
Stanislav
Hi!
I'm probably in the 'nay' camp, but purely because I can't see any
reason to take several years of existing code base and changing it. So
I wish I had any idea about how we got to changing existing code base.
No one ever suggested removing array() syntax.
syntax but rather just adding
Hi,
I'm a user-space developer. And while indeed not doing anything is annoying
enough that I've started learning the internals of PHP, I'm not at the point
where I can confidently submit namespace patches myself. And let's face it,
they'll be ignored.
I would think those with the "karma" a
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