On Fri, January 11, 2008 4:13 pm, Sam Barrow wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 00:52 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote:
>> On 11.01.2008 22:13, Sam Barrow wrote:
>> >> input from many people is great, moreover - it is necessary.
>> However, it
>> >> is not the same as deciding by arithmetical majority of vot
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 00:52 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote:
> On 11.01.2008 22:13, Sam Barrow wrote:
> >> input from many people is great, moreover - it is necessary. However, it
> >> is not the same as deciding by arithmetical majority of votes of whoever
> >> cares to vote on technical questions.
>
> and here goes the problem, some people here understand the issue a bit
> better than others and some people actually do the work because they can
> and are being respected for - just by their experience...
I understand the need to have the final decision made by the core developers.
Designing b
Hello Sam,
and here goes the problem, some people here understand the issue a bit
better than others and some people actually do the work because they can and
are being respected for - just by their experience...
Either way there is a clear functional difference. The old array style
syntax look
On Jan 12, 2008 1:54 AM, Jeff Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > if (1) {
> > $a = [
> > [
> > ['a' => 1, 3],
> > ($b = 3),
> > ]
> > ];
> > } else {
> > $a = [
> > [
> > ['b' => 1, 3]
> > ]
> > ];
> > }
>
Gregory Beaver wrote:
Jeff Griffiths wrote:
Antony Dovgal wrote:
...
Well, to me it matters whether the author is going to care of the
thing he's proposing or he's going to disappear right after it's
implemented.
I didn't realize there was a section of the code flagged 'syntactic
sugar' and on
Jeff Griffiths wrote:
> Antony Dovgal wrote:
> ...
>> Well, to me it matters whether the author is going to care of the
>> thing he's proposing or he's going to disappear right after it's
>> implemented.
>
> I didn't realize there was a section of the code flagged 'syntactic
> sugar' and only a fe
On 12.01.2008 02:20, Jeff Griffiths wrote:
> Antony Dovgal wrote:
> ...
>> Well, to me it matters whether the author is going to care of the thing he's
>> proposing or he's going to disappear right after it's implemented.
>
> I didn't realize there was a section of the code flagged 'syntactic
>
Antony Dovgal wrote:
...
Well, to me it matters whether the author is going to care of the thing he's
proposing or he's going to disappear right after it's implemented.
I didn't realize there was a section of the code flagged 'syntactic
sugar' and only a few people maintained that part. it als
On 12.01.2008 01:08, Pierre wrote:
>> > If we were voting on implementing a highly advanced technical feature
>> > then yes, people who know what they're talking about should be given
>> > more weight, but in this case I don't think so.
>>
>> You're not going to fix bug reports related to the parse
On Jan 11, 2008 10:52 PM, Antony Dovgal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If we were voting on implementing a highly advanced technical feature
> > then yes, people who know what they're talking about should be given
> > more weight, but in this case I don't think so.
>
> You're not going to fix bug
On 11.01.2008 22:13, Sam Barrow wrote:
>> input from many people is great, moreover - it is necessary. However, it
>> is not the same as deciding by arithmetical majority of votes of whoever
>> cares to vote on technical questions.
>
> Which is a valid point in most cases, but this is not techni
It is better to have input from people with a wide range of experience
levels, it results in a fairer vote that actually represents the
population, rather than putting PHP under the control of a select few.
No, it is not. This has nothing to do with "fairness", as we are not
enacting laws, levy
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 11:07 -0800, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> > It is better to have input from people with a wide range of experience
> > levels, it results in a fairer vote that actually represents the
> > population, rather than putting PHP under the control of a select few.
>
> No, it is not.
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 14:06 -0500, Olivier Hill wrote:
> On Jan 11, 2008 1:47 PM, Sam Barrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > True. No one's vote is worth more than anyone else's, everybody should
> > have equal say. Some people may know more about the PHP core, but we are
> > all users and devel
It is better to have input from people with a wide range of experience
levels, it results in a fairer vote that actually represents the
population, rather than putting PHP under the control of a select few.
No, it is not. This has nothing to do with "fairness", as we are not
enacting laws, levy
On Jan 11, 2008 1:47 PM, Sam Barrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> True. No one's vote is worth more than anyone else's, everybody should
> have equal say. Some people may know more about the PHP core, but we are
> all users and developers.
Not when some write anything about everything without kno
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 19:27 +0100, Pierre wrote:
> On Jan 11, 2008 7:24 PM, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > But well in my results I have a problem: For Rasmus's vote I've counted
> > a -1 while "as such this syntax is appropriate I think" has to be
> > counted as +1.
>
> There
Johannes Schlüter wrote:
But well in my results I have a problem: For Rasmus's vote I've counted
a -1 while "as such this syntax is appropriate I think" has to be
counted as +1.
I don't understand how you interpreted my view as a -1. I'm somewhat
ambivalent about it, but I don't think it woul
On Jan 11, 2008 7:24 PM, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But well in my results I have a problem: For Rasmus's vote I've counted
> a -1 while "as such this syntax is appropriate I think" has to be
> counted as +1.
There is more than that. It is too early to close the poll. I is not
Hi Pierre,
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 18:37 +0100, Pierre wrote:
> Yes, you forgot me. And restricting the right to vote to php-src only
> is respectless for all the documentation people.
Well, any restriction there is hard. I know hat the php-src karma is not
the best criteria. We have people with ka
I did a short count of the "votes" about the Array Syntax shortcut on
the list. I hope I've got everybody right. The results look like that:
There was no "vote", in fact. For example, I am for it and I'm sure my
"vote" wasn't counted - simply because I already voiced my support for
it last tim
On Jan 11, 2008 6:37 PM, Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 11, 2008 4:47 PM, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I did a short count of the "votes" about the Array Syntax shortcut on
> > the list. I hope I've got everybody right. The results look like that:
>
> Yes
On Jan 11, 2008 4:47 PM, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I did a short count of the "votes" about the Array Syntax shortcut on
> the list. I hope I've got everybody right. The results look like that:
Yes, you forgot me. And restricting the right to vote to php-src only
is re
-1
(OK so I'm late...)
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From: "Johannes Schlüter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PHP Internals List"
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:47 PM
Subject: [PHP-DEV] SUMMARY: Array syntax
Hi,
I did a short count of the "votes" about the Array Syntax shortcut on
the list. I
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