Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-10 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hi Pierre, Pierre Joye wrote: However, if I have to choose something I would like to understand why all of a sudden December 31 become a valid date. It is unrelated to 7 release date (December 3rd) and has no relevance whatsoever but easier to remember. This is a good observation. If we're to

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-09 Thread Davey Shafik
Frankly, I think the LTS distros that include PHP 5.6 will be plenty — as we've seen with 5.3, it has been maintained with back ports long after the official EOL. People either understand what they're getting into when making these choices, or they don't and they don't care anyway. I'd vote +1 on

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 2:51 AM, Adam Howard wrote: > #3 all the way. Extending support only extends the excuse of poor habits > and encourages those habits. Same here. However, if I have to choose something I would like to understand why all of a sudden December 31 become a valid date. It

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Adam Howard
#3 all the way. Extending support only extends the excuse of poor habits and encourages those habits. On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Scott Arciszewski wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > Following the initial discussion, I prepared an RFC that proposes to > ext

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Scott Arciszewski
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Following the initial discussion, I prepared an RFC that proposes to extend > the support periods for PHP 5.6: > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php56timeline > > > > Thanks to Ferenc Kovacs and David Zuelke for reviewing it for any glaring >

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Anthony Ferrara
Zeev, On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmax...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 6:09 PM >> To: Zeev Suraski >> Cc: PHP internals >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC:

RE: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Zeev Suraski
> BTW, to be clear, this is really about "PHP 5 Support Timeline" > > (so not about a "minor" version timeline, but really about a "major" > version one, the reason why I will +1 option #1) That’ a very good point also raised by Ferenc in his review. I amended it further and actually changed the

RE: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Zeev Suraski
> -Original Message- > From: Derick Rethans [mailto:der...@php.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 6:11 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline > > I think you're making the voting too complicated :

RE: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Zeev Suraski
> -Original Message- > From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmax...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 6:09 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline > > Zeev, > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread David Zuelke
See my suggestion to split it into two separate votes ;) > On 08.12.2015, at 17:11, Derick Rethans wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2015, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> Following the initial discussion, I prepared an RFC that proposes to extend >> the support periods for PHP 5.6: >> >> https://wiki.php.net/

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Following the initial discussion, I prepared an RFC that proposes to extend > the support periods for PHP 5.6: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php56timeline > > Thanks to Ferenc Kovacs and David Zuelke for reviewing it for any glaring > omissions. > > Let

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Anthony Ferrara
Zeev, On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Following the initial discussion, I prepared an RFC that proposes to extend > the support periods for PHP 5.6: > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php56timeline > > > > Thanks to Ferenc Kovacs and David Zuelke for reviewing it for any glar

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Remi Collet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 08/12/2015 16:14, Zeev Suraski a écrit : > Following the initial discussion, I prepared an RFC that proposes > to extend the support periods for PHP 5.6: > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php56timeline Thanks for the work. BTW, to be clear, thi

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Am 08.12.2015 um 16:14 schrieb Zeev Suraski: > I prepared an RFC that proposes to extend the support periods for PHP 5.6 Thank you for your work on this RFC, Zeev. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread Zeev Suraski
> -Original Message- > From: David Zuelke [mailto:d...@heroku.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 5:19 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline > > It just occurred to me (too late :D sorry Zeev) that

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 5.6 Support Timeline

2015-12-08 Thread David Zuelke
It just occurred to me (too late :D sorry Zeev) that it might make sense to split this into two RFCs: - to define the active support end date for 5.6 (e.g. "2016-08-28" or "2016-12-02" or "2016-12-31") - to define the security support end date for 5.6, and specify that relative to the active su