Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-10-05 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, October 3, 2006 6:03 pm, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > These are the sorts of things that the patch doesn't address that we > should be talking about, not whether it would be a useful feature to > users. We all agree it would be, but having a half-working feature > wouldn't be. Would it be poss

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-10-04 Thread Pierre
Hello, On 10/4/06, Andrei Zmievski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:47 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > I did check it out. Even made changes to try out a few variations on > the theme. I also stand by that I don't like the number of variables > it throws into the mix. > > How about a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-10-04 Thread Michael Wallner
Andrei Zmievski wrote: > On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:47 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > >> How about a compromise, we finish the code migration effort first, >> then address per-request semantics either before beta, or in the 6.1 >> branch. > > I am afraid that won't work. There are several extensions which n

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-10-04 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:47 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: I did check it out. Even made changes to try out a few variations on the theme. I also stand by that I don't like the number of variables it throws into the mix. How about a compromise, we finish the code migration effort first, then address

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-10-03 Thread Sara Golemon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What soup? Did you check out the patch? It's actually not bad at all. It's even cleaner than what we had previously as we just make sure we have two versions and we use the right one... I did check it out. Even made changes to try out a few variations on the theme. I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-10-03 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Christian Schneider wrote: Andi Gutmans wrote: Maybe in a purists view it's not great, but in real life, many many many users run more than one application on the same PHP server. Not supporting per-request Unicode in PHP 6 is going to be a huge mistake and will just screw our users, most of t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-10-03 Thread Christian Schneider
Andi Gutmans wrote: Maybe in a purists view it's not great, but in real life, many many many users run more than one application on the same PHP server. Not supporting per-request Unicode in PHP 6 is going to be a huge mistake and will just screw our users, most of them not purists nor hackers..

RE: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-10-03 Thread Andi Gutmans
: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:42 AM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode) > > >> No comments? > > > > I'm definitely +1 on the per-host configure option, if it's stable > > enough to satisfy QA team. > >

RE: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-10-03 Thread Andi Gutmans
rom: Ilia Alshanetsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Ilia Alshanetsky > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:23 PM > To: Andrei Zmievski > Cc: PHP Internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode) > > After looking at the patch, I think that for the sake of code

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-10-03 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > > > Nooone is arguing that from the userspace side, having per-dir support for > > setting the unicode flag is a good thing. It is. The question is: Is it > > good enough to justify the soup that will become of the internal registries? > > I'm

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-10-02 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
After looking at the patch, I think that for the sake of code sanity we need to keep this setting only inside php.ini only. The amount of hackery per-request setting creates is just not worth the convenience IMHO. -1. Ilia -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscri

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-09-29 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Nooone is arguing that from the userspace side, having per-dir support for setting the unicode flag is a good thing. It is. The question is: Is it good enough to justify the soup that will become of the internal registries? I'm not sure there really would be a soup. Yes, there would be two

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-09-29 Thread Sara Golemon
>> No comments? > > I'm definitely +1 on the per-host configure option, if it's stable > enough to satisfy QA team. > > Making migration to unicode apps easier is definitely a big win for > adoption. > Nooone is arguing that from the userspace side, having per-dir support for setting the unicode f

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Wallner
Andrei Zmievski wrote: > No comments? I didn't have the time to look & try it yet. -- Michael -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-09-28 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, September 28, 2006 11:44 am, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > No comments? I'm definitely +1 on the per-host configure option, if it's stable enough to satisfy QA team. Making migration to unicode apps easier is definitely a big win for adoption. -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm --

Re: [PHP-DEV] Per-request UG(unicode)

2006-09-28 Thread Andrei Zmievski
No comments? On Sep 27, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Andrei Zmievski wrote: Andi asked me to forward this, since it didn't go through to the list on the first try. Hi, The following is a patch Dmitry did to change UG(unicode) to be configurable per-request. The guidelines from Andrei was that it sh