Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-13 Thread Andrei Zmievski
Like case-sensitivity. -Andrei P.S. Joking, I am _just_ JOKING! Have a sense of humor, people. On Mar 12, 2006, at 8:50 AM, Pierre wrote: On 3/12/06, Steph Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lukas, that's extremely odd. Check history! (when most of the core team agreed on jump originally, fo

RE: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-12 Thread Dmitry Stogov
Seems the majority prefers "goto". I'll change "jump" to "goto" tomorrow in case of no serious objections. Thanks. Dmitry. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-12 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello bertrand, just to clearify this, we don't do voting here becuase it is impossible to bring a majority of php users here or decide who is important and so on. Thus we are only doing surveys here even if called voting. And i assume that all people on this list have better things to do than i

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-12 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
Let's just call it goto and be done with it. It seems that for the people who will use this feature "goto" name will cause the least amount of "WTF". Ilia -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-12 Thread bertrand Gugger
Can't you g(irl|uy)s install somewhere a right pool so people can simply vote ? With some identification, so you can sort out common people, registered, core, etc... results ? I mean for simple choices e.g. goto|jump|both, otherwise, as was recently proposed, RFC are certainly nice and more ef

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-12 Thread Steph Fox
Lukas, that's extremely odd. Check history! (when most of the core team agreed on jump originally, for a start). I've seen five very vocal pro 'goto's here and NO good reasons given for it. There are several good reasons against. The result of the vote in this thread is clear. No matter what

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-12 Thread Andi Gutmans
t;> From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:22 AM >> To: Wez Furlong >> Cc: Dmitry Stogov; internals@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion) >> >> >> Hello Wez, >> &

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-12 Thread Pierre
On 3/12/06, Steph Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lukas, that's extremely odd. Check history! (when most of the core team > agreed on jump originally, for a start). I've seen five very vocal pro > 'goto's here and NO good reasons given for it. There are several good > reasons against. The res

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-12 Thread Steph Fox
Dmitry, maybe I have overlooked a single post, but I have yet to see a single post favoring "jump" over "goto". The common decision is here and it is "goto". Lukas, that's extremely odd. Check history! (when most of the core team agreed on jump originally, for a start). I've seen five very

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-12 Thread Lukas Smith
Dmitry Stogov wrote: We already have exceptions, so we don't need another longjump :) "jump" or "goto"? Just make common decision and I will change it. Dmitry, maybe I have overlooked a single post, but I have yet to see a single post favoring "jump" over "goto". The common decision is here a

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-12 Thread Marcus Boerger
arch 11, 2006 1:22 AM >> To: Wez Furlong >> Cc: Dmitry Stogov; internals@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion) >> >> >> Hello Wez, >> >>just to continue on this nice argument: Jump reminds me of >> t

RE: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-12 Thread Dmitry Stogov
006 1:22 AM > To: Wez Furlong > Cc: Dmitry Stogov; internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion) > > > Hello Wez, > >just to continue on this nice argument: Jump reminds me of > the worst addition to c ever: longjump. > > m

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-10 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Wez, just to continue on this nice argument: Jump reminds me of the worst addition to c ever: longjump. marcus Friday, March 10, 2006, 2:36:56 PM, you wrote: > My vote is +1 for goto, just because that largely describes what it > does and how it is used. I don't mind if it winds up be

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-10 Thread Bart de Boer
+1 for goto -1 for jump Wez Furlong wrote: My vote is +1 for goto, just because that largely describes what it does and how it is used. I don't mind if it winds up being called jump, I just think it will be easier for people to find it when they need it if it is called 'goto'. 'goto' also c

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-10 Thread Wez Furlong
My vote is +1 for goto, just because that largely describes what it does and how it is used. I don't mind if it winds up being called jump, I just think it will be easier for people to find it when they need it if it is called 'goto'. 'goto' also comes with all the usual anti-goto propaganda that

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-09 Thread João Cruz Morais
At 10:03 09/03/2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote: >>The last question: >>What do you thin about Andi's solution about using "jump" instead of "goto"? Great! Yet another keyword. PHP keeps surprising the world... >>It may make sense, because it is not a full analog of C's goto statement. It >>is a lim

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
jump makes more sense than goto. We bounced it off in the Paris meeting, IIRC it was fairly popular in case we go down the route of this semantics. Zeev At 10:03 09/03/2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote: Hi, The solution (2) - "goto only" is the winner. So in case of no serious objections, I'll comm

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-09 Thread Andrey Hristov
Jon Dowland wrote: At 1141902889, Andrey Hristov wrote: sorry for sending second email. Another choice could be `leave`, which seems better than `escape` (clashes with escaping sequences). I think `leave` has too many connotations with `break` and similar commands, and could be misleading.

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-09 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1141895342, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > > The last question: What do you thin about Andi's solution about > > using "jump" instead of "goto"? > > I don't really mind... but I wonder why you want to do this? Both work > equally well and most people are fami

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-09 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1141902889, Andrey Hristov wrote: > sorry for sending second email. Another choice could be `leave`, which > seems better than `escape` (clashes with escaping sequences). I think `leave` has too many connotations with `break` and similar commands, and could be misleading. -- Jon Dowland http:

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-09 Thread Andrey Hristov
about `escape`? Thanks. Dmitry. -Original Message- From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:09 AM To: Dmitry Stogov Cc: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-09 Thread Andrey Hristov
: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote: Hi, The solution (2) - "goto only" is the winner. So in case of no serious objections, I'll commit the "goto.diff" patch in 24 hour.

RE: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-09 Thread Dmitry Stogov
I am indifferent - "goto" or "jump", but may be others don't. Thanks. Dmitry. > -Original Message- > From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:09 AM > To: Dmitry Stogov > Cc: internals@lists.php.net &g

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)

2006-03-09 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > Hi, > > The solution (2) - "goto only" is the winner. > So in case of no serious objections, I'll commit the "goto.diff" patch in 24 > hour. > > The last question: > What do you thin about Andi's solution about using "jump" instead of "goto"? I don't