Like case-sensitivity.
-Andrei
P.S. Joking, I am _just_ JOKING! Have a sense of humor, people.
On Mar 12, 2006, at 8:50 AM, Pierre wrote:
On 3/12/06, Steph Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Lukas, that's extremely odd. Check history! (when most of the
core team
agreed on jump originally, fo
Seems the majority prefers "goto".
I'll change "jump" to "goto" tomorrow in case of no serious objections.
Thanks. Dmitry.
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Hello bertrand,
just to clearify this, we don't do voting here becuase it is impossible to
bring a majority of php users here or decide who is important and so on.
Thus we are only doing surveys here even if called voting. And i assume that
all people on this list have better things to do than i
Let's just call it goto and be done with it. It seems that for the
people who will use this feature "goto" name will cause the least amount
of "WTF".
Ilia
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Can't you g(irl|uy)s install somewhere a right pool so people can simply
vote ?
With some identification, so you can sort out common people, registered,
core, etc... results ?
I mean for simple choices e.g. goto|jump|both,
otherwise, as was recently proposed, RFC are certainly nice and more
ef
Lukas, that's extremely odd. Check history! (when most of the core team
agreed on jump originally, for a start). I've seen five very vocal pro
'goto's here and NO good reasons given for it. There are several good
reasons against.
The result of the vote in this thread is clear. No matter what
t;> From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:22 AM
>> To: Wez Furlong
>> Cc: Dmitry Stogov; internals@lists.php.net
>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)
>>
>>
>> Hello Wez,
>>
&
On 3/12/06, Steph Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lukas, that's extremely odd. Check history! (when most of the core team
> agreed on jump originally, for a start). I've seen five very vocal pro
> 'goto's here and NO good reasons given for it. There are several good
> reasons against.
The res
Dmitry, maybe I have overlooked a single post, but I have yet to see a
single post favoring "jump" over "goto". The common decision is here and
it is "goto".
Lukas, that's extremely odd. Check history! (when most of the core team
agreed on jump originally, for a start). I've seen five very
Dmitry Stogov wrote:
We already have exceptions, so we don't need another longjump :)
"jump" or "goto"? Just make common decision and I will change it.
Dmitry, maybe I have overlooked a single post, but I have yet to see a
single post favoring "jump" over "goto". The common decision is here a
arch 11, 2006 1:22 AM
>> To: Wez Furlong
>> Cc: Dmitry Stogov; internals@lists.php.net
>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)
>>
>>
>> Hello Wez,
>>
>>just to continue on this nice argument: Jump reminds me of
>> t
006 1:22 AM
> To: Wez Furlong
> Cc: Dmitry Stogov; internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)
>
>
> Hello Wez,
>
>just to continue on this nice argument: Jump reminds me of
> the worst addition to c ever: longjump.
>
> m
Hello Wez,
just to continue on this nice argument: Jump reminds me of the worst
addition to c ever: longjump.
marcus
Friday, March 10, 2006, 2:36:56 PM, you wrote:
> My vote is +1 for goto, just because that largely describes what it
> does and how it is used. I don't mind if it winds up be
+1 for goto
-1 for jump
Wez Furlong wrote:
My vote is +1 for goto, just because that largely describes what it
does and how it is used. I don't mind if it winds up being called
jump, I just think it will be easier for people to find it when they
need it if it is called 'goto'. 'goto' also c
My vote is +1 for goto, just because that largely describes what it
does and how it is used. I don't mind if it winds up being called
jump, I just think it will be easier for people to find it when they
need it if it is called 'goto'. 'goto' also comes with all the usual
anti-goto propaganda that
On 3/9/06, Steph Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please, Xuefer! Your vote was already recorded, shhh!
i wasn't to vote more than once. it's same vote but with a bit
different syntax changed. oh well, the result is out, this is only my
explaination.
At 10:03 09/03/2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
>>The last question:
>>What do you thin about Andi's solution about using "jump" instead of
"goto"?
Great! Yet another keyword. PHP keeps surprising the world...
>>It may make sense, because it is not a full analog of C's goto
statement. It
>>is a lim
jump makes more sense than goto. We bounced it off in the Paris
meeting, IIRC it was fairly popular in case we go down the route of
this semantics.
Zeev
At 10:03 09/03/2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
Hi,
The solution (2) - "goto only" is the winner.
So in case of no serious objections, I'll comm
Jon Dowland wrote:
At 1141902889, Andrey Hristov wrote:
sorry for sending second email. Another choice could be `leave`, which
seems better than `escape` (clashes with escaping sequences).
I think `leave` has too many connotations with `break` and similar
commands, and could be misleading.
At 1141895342, Derick Rethans wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> > The last question: What do you thin about Andi's solution about
> > using "jump" instead of "goto"?
>
> I don't really mind... but I wonder why you want to do this? Both work
> equally well and most people are fami
At 1141902889, Andrey Hristov wrote:
> sorry for sending second email. Another choice could be `leave`, which
> seems better than `escape` (clashes with escaping sequences).
I think `leave` has too many connotations with `break` and similar
commands, and could be misleading.
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about `escape`?
Thanks. Dmitry.
-Original Message-
From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March
09, 2006 11:09 AM
To: Dmitry Stogov
Cc: internals@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote
: internals@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL (conclusion)
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
Hi,
The solution (2) - "goto only" is the winner.
So in case of no serious objections, I'll commit the
"goto.diff" patch
in 24 hour.
I am indifferent - "goto" or "jump", but may be others don't.
Thanks. Dmitry.
> -Original Message-
> From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:09 AM
> To: Dmitry Stogov
> Cc: internals@lists.php.net
&g
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The solution (2) - "goto only" is the winner.
> So in case of no serious objections, I'll commit the "goto.diff" patch in 24
> hour.
>
> The last question:
> What do you thin about Andi's solution about using "jump" instead of "goto"?
I don't
Please, Xuefer! Your vote was already recorded, shhh!
- Original Message -
From: "Xuefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ford, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Dmitry Stogov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:19 AM
Subject
> If the "Java-like" syntax is seen as confusing, what about, as in some other
> languages, interpolating the label into the for/foreach/while statement:
>
> for () label {...} or for label (...) {...}
a. label: for () { break label; } AND label: { for () {
break label; } } (see
On 07 March 2006 09:28, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> Please reviw and vote.
>
> 1) goto and break label
> 2) goto only (like C)
> 3) break label only (like Java)
> 4) nothing
1) +0.25
2) -1e38
3) +1e38
4) -infinity
Or, in other words, I want labelled break, and I don't want to have to emulate
it wit
On 7.3.2006 15:44 Uhr, Steph Fox wrote:
1) goto and break label
2) goto only (like C)
3) break label only (like Java)
4) nothing
Sorry for the noise. I was told to vote.
Meaning, I don't care, never had a use for GOTO, but if the caring
majority thinks, it's needed, why not :)
chregu
sa
Christian Stocker schrieb:
> 1) 0
> 2) 0
> 3) 0
> 4) 0
>
> Sorry for the noise. I was told to vote.
>
> Meaning, I don't care, never had a use for GOTO, but if the caring
> majority thinks, it's needed, why not :)
Same here.
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On 7.3.2006 15:44 Uhr, Steph Fox wrote:
1) goto and break label
2) goto only (like C)
3) break label only (like Java)
4) nothing
In Sean's words:
1) 0
2) 0
3) 0
4) 0
Sorry for the noise. I was told to vote.
Meaning, I don't care, never had a use for GOTO, but if the caring
major
riginal Message - From: "John Coggeshall"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Robert Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Dmitry Stogov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL
if($choice == 1) {
got
Hi,
On Tuesday 07 March 2006 19:18, Steph Fox wrote:
> Current raw totals amongst those who contribute to the PHP core: (1) +5.5,
> (2) +9.5, (3) +0, (4) 2
>
> Still to vote: Derick, Marcus, George, Sascha, Hartmut, Chregu, Johannes,
> Sebastian, Stefan, apologies if I missed any names here.
Alri
Steph Fox wrote:
Still to vote: Derick, Marcus, George, Sascha, Hartmut, Chregu,
Johannes, Sebastian, Stefan, apologies if I missed any names here.
1) -1
2) +1
3) +.5
4) -0
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On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 13:52, Sara Golemon wrote:
> > I don't remember, but I think Sarah Golemon allowed for it in one of her
> > patches way back:
> >
> > goto $map[$choice];
> >
> Yes, and targeting dynamic labels was one of the first big sacrifices on the
> altar of compromise. Current impleme
Hello Dmitry,
Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 10:28:27 AM, you wrote:
> Hi,
> Because of some confused people I reverted "break label" patch and post it
> for discussion once again together with GOTO patch.
> Please reviw and vote.
> 1) goto and break label
-1e307
> 2) goto only (like C)
-1e307
>
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Steph Fox wrote:
> I took that as (2) +1, (4) +1.
>
> Current raw totals amongst those who contribute to the PHP core: (1) +5.5, (2)
> +9.5, (3) +0, (4) 2
>
> Still to vote: Derick, Marcus, George, Sascha, Hartmut, Chregu, Johannes,
> Sebastian, Stefan, apologies if I missed
Steph Fox wrote:
> Still notably haven't heard from: Lukas, Nuno, Alan K, Sean...
1) 0
2) 0
3) 0
4) 0
Sorry for the noise. I was told to vote.
I don't personally have much use for goto, and I see both sides.
I also only run PHP on dedicated platforms, so if appropriate engine
mods were made (if
I don't remember, but I think Sarah Golemon allowed for it in one of her
patches way back:
goto $map[$choice];
Yes, and targeting dynamic labels was one of the first big sacrifices on the
altar of compromise. Current implementation options use static,
compile-time resolved labels only.
-Sar
Hi,
On Tuesday 07 March 2006 19:14, Robert Cummings wrote:
> I don't remember, but I think Sarah Golemon allowed for it in one of her
> patches way back:
>
>
> $map = array
> (
> 1 => 'bad',
> 2 => 'good',
> 3 => 'bad',
> 4 => 'acceptable',
> );
>
> goto $map[$choice];
NOOO - If
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Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO and/or BREAK LABEL
if($choice == 1) {
goto bad;
} else if ($choice == 2) {
goto good;
} else if ($choice == 3) {
goto bad;
} else if ($choice == 4) {
goto good;
}
good:
$vote++;
bad:
return;
On Tue, 2006
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 12:58, John Coggeshall wrote:
> if($choice == 1) {
> goto bad;
> } else if ($choice == 2) {
> goto good;
> } else if ($choice == 3) {
> goto bad;
> } else if ($choice == 4) {
> goto good;
> }
>
> good:
> $vote++;
> bad:
> return;
I don't r
if($choice == 1) {
goto bad;
} else if ($choice == 2) {
goto good;
} else if ($choice == 3) {
goto bad;
} else if ($choice == 4) {
goto good;
}
good:
$vote++;
bad:
return;
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 12:50 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-03-0
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 12:50, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> At 09:50 AM 3/7/2006, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 04:28, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Because of some confused people I reverted "break label" patch and post it
> > > for discussion once again together with GOTO pa
At 09:50 AM 3/7/2006, Robert Cummings wrote:
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 04:28, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Because of some confused people I reverted "break label" patch and post it
> for discussion once again together with GOTO patch.
>
> Please reviw and vote.
>
> 1) goto and break label
> 2) got
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 04:28, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Because of some confused people I reverted "break label" patch and post it
> for discussion once again together with GOTO patch.
>
> Please reviw and vote.
>
> 1) goto and break label
> 2) goto only (like C)
> 3) break label only (like
(2) +1e10
On Mar 7, 2006, at 1:28 AM, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
Hi,
Because of some confused people I reverted "break label" patch and
post it
for discussion once again together with GOTO patch.
Please reviw and vote.
1) goto and break label
2) goto only (like C)
3) break label only (like Java)
Hi,
On Tuesday 07 March 2006 10:28, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> 1) goto and break label
+1
> 2) goto only (like C)
+1
> 3) break label only (like Java)
-1
> 4) nothing
-1
Regards,
Magnus "Currently 'a bit' inactive" Määttä
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On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 12:28 +0300, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Because of some confused people I reverted "break label" patch and post it
> for discussion once again together with GOTO patch.
>
> Please reviw and vote.
>
> 1) goto and break label
> 2) goto only (like C)
> 3) break label only
Dmitry Stogov wrote:
1) goto and break label
+0.5
2) goto only (like C)
+1
3) break label only (like Java)
-1
Rob
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Yes 2. Sorrry
At 07:28 AM 3/7/2006, Edin Kadribasic wrote:
Andi Gutmans wrote:
> I'm with Rasmus on the break label stuff. Although it's not confusing to
> me, I got convinced quickly that it'll be confusing to the wider
> audience. So big -1 from me for (2) & (1).
>From your comment bellow I f
Andi Gutmans wrote:
> I'm with Rasmus on the break label stuff. Although it's not confusing to
> me, I got convinced quickly that it'll be confusing to the wider
> audience. So big -1 from me for (2) & (1).
>From your comment bellow I figure you're for option 2, right?
Edin
> I think we should
I'm with Rasmus on the break label stuff. Although it's not confusing
to me, I got convinced quickly that it'll be confusing to the wider
audience. So big -1 from me for (2) & (1).
I think we should either stick with nothing or go to a full goto
(without jumping into scopes of course). Only fo
1) goto and break label
2) goto only (like C)
3) break label only (like Java)
4) nothing
Thanks for giving this a final chance, Dmitry.
1) +0.5
3) +1
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Dmitry Stogov wrote:
1) goto and break label
+1
2) goto only (like C)
+1
3) break label only (like Java)
-1
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Sascha Schumann wrote:
5) goto, fowarding-jumping only.
which would more or less make it useless for state machine stuff, right?
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On 3/7/06, Dmitry Stogov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Because of some confused people I reverted "break label" patch and post it
> for discussion once again together with GOTO patch.
>
> Please reviw and vote.
>
> 1) goto and break label
> 2) goto only (like C)
> 3) break label only (like J
At 11:28 07/03/2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
Hi,
Because of some confused people I reverted "break label" patch and post it
for discussion once again together with GOTO patch.
Please reviw and vote.
1) goto and break label
2) goto only (like C)
3) break label only (like Java)
4) nothing
My vote:
On 3/7/06, Wez Furlong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/7/06, Dmitry Stogov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 1) goto and break label
> +1
>
> I'm happy with goto, but don't mind getting labelled breaks "for
> free"; labels are better than numbers.
same here +1
> > 2) goto only (like C)
+1
> > 3)
On 3/7/06, Dmitry Stogov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) goto and break label
+1
I'm happy with goto, but don't mind getting labelled breaks "for
free"; labels are better than numbers.
> 2) goto only (like C)
+1
> 3) break label only (like Java)
+0.5, but only if we don't have goto
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On 07.03.2006 11:28, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
Hi,
Because of some confused people I reverted "break label" patch and post it
for discussion once again together with GOTO patch.
Please reviw and vote.
1) goto and break label
2) goto only (like C)
3) break label only (like Java)
4) nothing
2) +0.5
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Sascha Schumann wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Because of some confused people I reverted "break label" patch and post it
> > for discussion once again together with GOTO patch.
> >
> > Please reviw and vote.
> >
> > 1) goto and break la
DS>>1) goto and break label
DS>>2) goto only (like C)
DS>>3) break label only (like Java)
DS>>4) nothing
1) +0.5 2) -1 3) +1
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Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> Please reviw and vote.
>
> 1) goto and break label
> 2) goto only (like C)
> 3) break label only (like Java)
> 4) nothing
1) +1
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Because of some confused people I reverted "break label" patch and post it
> for discussion once again together with GOTO patch.
>
> Please reviw and vote.
>
> 1) goto and break label
> 2) goto only (like C)
> 3) break label only (like Java)
>
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