> if hosting it ourself is a priority, i suggest looking into GitLab’s
> Community Edition, which is entirely open source,
> and the GNOME project moved from Bugzilla to GitLab CE in 2018,
> here's how that worked out, 2 years later:
> https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2020/09/08/gnome-follow-up/
> (an
On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 at 09:47, Derick Rethans wrote:
Derick wrote:
> I think it is a mistake to decide on a whim to move over to GitHub
> issues without having evaluated anything else.
Maybe avoid being insulting about other people's decision making
process? I'm pretty sure that Nikita doesn't ma
On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 at 09:56, Hans Henrik Bergan wrote:
>
> if hosting it ourself is a priority,
No, quite the opposite.
The PHP project is pretty terrible at running infrastructure, as
infrastructure needs to have people available to work on it
immediately when there are issues, which is not a
Chiming in, since it seems like people are suggesting Gitlab and further
"exotic" tools.
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 6:06 PM Rowan Tommins
wrote:
> On 15/11/2021 14:49, Deleu wrote:
> > I had already decided to spend time and effort learning about the
> > project and then having to learn about their
On 15/11/2021 14:49, Deleu wrote:
I had already decided to spend time and effort learning about the
project and then having to learn about their ticketing system and git
repository is just unnecessary extra work.
In any project above a handful of developers, learning the conventions
and expec
Le lundi 15 novembre 2021, 15:49:04 CET Deleu a écrit :
> Gitlab is not where the wide PHP Community is located. Composer,
> widely-used and adopted packages, frameworks, PSRs, PHP itself and PHP Docs
> are all hosted on GitHub. Choosing something else increases the barrier for
> newcomers to becom
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 8:49 AM Deleu wrote:
> >
> >
> > I would like to suggest gitlab.com, which does provide hosting for free
> > for opensource projects: https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/
> > Anyone with a github account can use it to log in.
> > It should be easy to migrate to
>
>
> I would like to suggest gitlab.com, which does provide hosting for free
> for opensource projects: https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/
> Anyone with a github account can use it to log in.
> It should be easy to migrate to any other gitlab instance if needed. There
> are even plans
I strongly agree with Derick on this matter.
Le lundi 15 novembre 2021, 12:06:54 CET Nikita Popov a écrit :
> For better or worse, GitHub is where nearly all open-source projects are
> hosted, which means that pretty much anyone involved in open-source has an
> account there and is familiar with t
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 10:47 AM Derick Rethans wrote:
> Dear Internals,
>
> I think it is a mistake to decide on a whim to move over to GitHub
> issues without having evaluated anything else.
>
> GitHub is a proprietary platform, where unlike with the code
> repositories, the interactions and is
On 15.11.21 10:47, Derick Rethans wrote:
GitHub is a proprietary platform, where unlike with the code
repositories, the interactions and issues are not easy to migrate out of
again. It is also now owned by MSFT, and although they are making
friendly noises towards Open Source, I remain largely sk
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 10:47 AM Derick Rethans wrote:
>
> and I worry that too
> few people are going to be interested in gardening the issues on GH.
>
> cheers,
> Derick
>
>
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2021, Nikita Popov wrote:
>
> > Hi internals,
> >
> > The migration from bugs.php.net to GitHub issues ha
if hosting it ourself is a priority, i suggest looking into GitLab’s
Community Edition, which is entirely open source,
and the GNOME project moved from Bugzilla to GitLab CE in 2018,
here's how that worked out, 2 years later:
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2020/09/08/gnome-follow-up/
(and the TL;DR
Hey Derick
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 10:47 AM Derick Rethans wrote:
> Dear Internals,
>
> I think it is a mistake to decide on a whim to move over to GitHub
> issues without having evaluated anything else.
>
> GitHub is a proprietary platform, where unlike with the code
> repositories, the interac
Dear Internals,
I think it is a mistake to decide on a whim to move over to GitHub
issues without having evaluated anything else.
GitHub is a proprietary platform, where unlike with the code
repositories, the interactions and issues are not easy to migrate out of
again. It is also now owned by
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 7:23 PM Niklas Keller wrote:
> Hey Nikita,
>
> I'd like to propose using HackerOne instead of bugs.php.net for security
> issues: https://www.hackerone.com/company/open-source-community
>
> Best,
> Niklas
>
Unfortunately I have no familiarity with HackerOne and as such do
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 5:51 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 5:58 PM Dan Ackroyd wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 at 14:19, Nikita Popov wrote:
>> >
>> > I'd like to formally propose to use GitHub for PHP implementation
>> issues as
>> > well: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/github_issue
Hey Nikita,
I'd like to propose using HackerOne instead of bugs.php.net for security
issues: https://www.hackerone.com/company/open-source-community
Best,
Niklas
Am Di., 2. Nov. 2021 um 15:19 Uhr schrieb Nikita Popov :
> Hi internals,
>
> The migration from bugs.php.net to GitHub issues has alr
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 5:58 PM Dan Ackroyd wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 at 14:19, Nikita Popov wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to formally propose to use GitHub for PHP implementation issues
> as
> > well: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/github_issues
>
> In general, yes please. The only bit I'll chime in on is
On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 at 14:19, Nikita Popov wrote:
>
> I'd like to formally propose to use GitHub for PHP implementation issues as
> well: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/github_issues
In general, yes please. The only bit I'll chime in on is:
> bugs.php.net will remain active for the following purposes:
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 9:19 AM Nikita Popov wrote:
> The migration from bugs.php.net to GitHub issues has already been
> discussed
> in https://externals.io/message/114300 and has already happened for
> documentation issues.
>
> I'd like to formally propose to use GitHub for PHP implementation is
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