Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! On 7/11/11 4:24 PM, Philip Olson wrote: The patch fixed a bug where the voting mechanism was not in sync with the passed voting RFC. It's closer now to most peoples interpretation of said RFC. Changing this would, I'm afraid, require changing the RFC which I suppose means an amendment [with

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Philip Olson
On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 00:34, Stas Malyshev wrote: >> Hi! >> >> On 7/11/11 3:20 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: >>> >>> The idea Stas proposed of leaving the votes untouched and just hide >>> those specific votes during rendering of the vote

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Hannes, On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 22:13, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >>> Stas means when we print who has voted, to only print votes by people >>> in that group so you won't need to manually filter out >>> not-allowed-to-vote votes. >>> >>> -

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 00:34, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > On 7/11/11 3:20 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: >> >> The idea Stas proposed of leaving the votes untouched and just hide >> those specific votes during rendering of the vote results is very >> silly to me. >> Manually summerizing the votes

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! On 7/11/11 3:20 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: The idea Stas proposed of leaving the votes untouched and just hide those specific votes during rendering of the vote results is very silly to me. Manually summerizing the votes like has been done in the past on many RFCs into "with karma" and "wit

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 23:23, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 22:13, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: Stas means when we print who has voted, to only print votes by people in that group so you won't need to manually fil

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 22:13, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >>> Stas means when we print who has voted, to only print votes by people >>> in that group so you won't need to manually filter out >>> not-allowed-to-vote votes. >>> >>> -Hannes >>> >

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 22:13, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> Stas means when we print who has voted, to only print votes by people >> in that group so you won't need to manually filter out >> not-allowed-to-vote votes. >> >> -Hannes >> > > I see. > if you only need the @php.net usernames, you can use th

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
> Stas means when we print who has voted, to only print votes by people > in that group so you won't need to manually filter out > not-allowed-to-vote votes. > > -Hannes > I see. if you only need the @php.net usernames, you can use the https://master.php.net/fetch/allusers.php api with the proper

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 21:38, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Peter Cowburn wrote: >> On 11 July 2011 20:07, Stas Malyshev wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> On 7/11/11 11:24 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: The current vote still needs to be reviewed manually anyway, so I

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Peter Cowburn wrote: > On 11 July 2011 20:07, Stas Malyshev wrote: >> Hi! >> >> On 7/11/11 11:24 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: >>> >>> The current vote still needs to be reviewed manually anyway, so I >>> really don't understand the need for a quick hack at this tim

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Cowburn
On 11 July 2011 20:07, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > On 7/11/11 11:24 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: >> >> The current vote still needs to be reviewed manually anyway, so I >> really don't understand the need for a quick hack at this time. >> Cooperating with the plugin authors on how to implement b

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! On 7/11/11 11:24 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: The current vote still needs to be reviewed manually anyway, so I really don't understand the need for a quick hack at this time. Cooperating with the plugin authors on how to implement better checks there would imo make much more sense. Is ther

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 19:05, Philip Olson wrote: > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Hannes Magnusson >> wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:48, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Philip Olson
On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:48, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote:

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:48, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Hannes Magnusson >>> wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03, Hannes Magnusson w

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:48, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Hannes Magnusson >> wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03, Hannes Magnusson >>> wrote: It is very hard to detect which "php group" a person b

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03, Hannes Magnusson >> wrote: >>> It is very hard to detect which "php group" a person belongs to, our >>> karma system doesn't work like that. >>>

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: >> It is very hard to detect which "php group" a person belongs to, our >> karma system doesn't work like that. >> >> We can easily detect if an account is an php.net SVN account t

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > It is very hard to detect which "php group" a person belongs to, our > karma system doesn't work like that. > > We can easily detect if an account is an php.net SVN account though. > And the wiki can tell you if a person has write access to

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > It is very hard to detect which "php group" a person belongs to, our > karma system doesn't work like that. It is somehow easier in the wiki, we have groups afair. Also for the votes, only svn account is enough, and "vote" group for

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > It is very hard to detect which "php group" a person belongs to, our > karma system doesn't work like that. > > We can easily detect if an account is an php.net SVN account though. > And the wiki can tell you if a person has write access

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
It is very hard to detect which "php group" a person belongs to, our karma system doesn't work like that. We can easily detect if an account is an php.net SVN account though. And the wiki can tell you if a person has write access to that specific page. Most external users have assigned "write" gr

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > There is no "accept an account". Thanks. > > Creating an account in the wiki, creates an account. > Like I said, the user doesn't have write access to anything unless > someone explicitly gives him write access (usually to /rfc, or /web)

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:56, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45, Stas Malyshev wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> On 7/11/11 1:23 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: Hi, if somebody wonders why do we have those french

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
about the fix, instead of "only registered users", we have to add group support, so we can add php-src/doc/etc. to it and manually add external and approved persons. If anyone has time to do it, please go ahead, code is in SVN. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45, Stas Malyshev wrote: >> Hi! >> >> On 7/11/11 1:23 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> if somebody wonders why do we have those french guys registering on the >>> wiki: >>> >>> http://blog.mageekbox

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > On 7/11/11 1:23 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> if somebody wonders why do we have those french guys registering on the >> wiki: >> >> http://blog.mageekbox.net/?post/2011/07/10/La-r%C3%A9volution-est-en-marche-%21 >> >> the au

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Adam Harvey wrote: > On 11 July 2011 17:43, Pierre Joye wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Stas Malyshev >> wrote: >> > I'd say for core features everybody with write access to the core, but then >> > again, >> >> Everyone with @php.net is what was dec

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Adam Harvey
On 11 July 2011 17:43, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Stas Malyshev > wrote: > > I'd say for core features everybody with write access to the core, but then > > again, > > Everyone with @php.net is what was decided. Was it? The RFC wasn't exactly clear on that one: the w

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > I'd say for core features everybody with write access to the core, but then > again, Everyone with @php.net is what was decided. > not sure about how to formalize that. Note that vote isn't meant to > be the decision. At least I thin

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! On 7/11/11 1:23 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: Hi, if somebody wonders why do we have those french guys registering on the wiki: http://blog.mageekbox.net/?post/2011/07/10/La-r%C3%A9volution-est-en-marche-%21 the author thought that anybody can vote who has wiki account, but that is corrected no

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Frédéric Hardy
Hello ! Hi, if somebody wonders why do we have those french guys registering on the wiki: http://blog.mageekbox.net/?post/2011/07/10/La-r%C3%A9volution-est-en-marche-%21 the author thought that anybody can vote who has wiki account, but that is corrected now. All my apologizes for this erro

[PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
Hi, if somebody wonders why do we have those french guys registering on the wiki: http://blog.mageekbox.net/?post/2011/07/10/La-r%C3%A9volution-est-en-marche-%21 the author thought that anybody can vote who has wiki account, but that is corrected now. however judging from the responses and the nu