> -Original Message-
> From: Kris Craig [mailto:kris.cr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 3:22 AM
> To: Xen
> Cc: Levi Morrison; internals
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] not_null function
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Xen wrote:
>
> >
> -Original Message-
> From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:06 AM
> To: Tjerk Meesters; PHP internals
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] not_null function
>
> On Jul 5, 2014 9:43 AM, "Tjerk Meesters"
> wrote:
> >
> On July 5, 2014 at 9:05 AM Pierre Joye wrote:
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> On Jul 5, 2014 9:43 AM, "Tjerk Meesters"
> wrote:
> >
>
> > Obviously spoke to soon ... what I've written there is basically an ugly
> > `!isset($var)`.
> >
>
> Totally fail to see what is ugly with is set or the difference with
> exists
On Jul 5, 2014 9:43 AM, "Tjerk Meesters"
wrote:
>
> Obviously spoke to soon ... what I've written there is basically an ugly
> `!isset($var)`.
>
Totally fail to see what is ugly with is set or the difference with
exists(). The latter, in the context of php (even more with phpng) makes
little sen
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Tjerk Meesters
wrote:
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> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Kris Craig wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Xen wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, Levi Morrison wrote:
>> >
>> > For completeness, it is available in Perl and I believe Perl had it
>> >> f
>
>
>> Currently, this is what's available for checking a variable's status
>> without throwing any errors:
>>
>> Variable exists and !== NULL: isset( $var )
>> Variable === NULL or doesn't exist: !isset( $var )
>> Variable == NULL or doesn't exist: empty( $var )
>> Variable exists and != NULL:
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Kris Craig wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Xen wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, Levi Morrison wrote:
> >
> > For completeness, it is available in Perl and I believe Perl had it
> >> first; not completely sure though.
> >>
> >
> > Okay, I never used Perl.
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Xen wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, Levi Morrison wrote:
>
> For completeness, it is available in Perl and I believe Perl had it
>> first; not completely sure though.
>>
>
> Okay, I never used Perl.
>
>
> I don't think changing isset would be beneficial, sadly. I wi
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, Levi Morrison wrote:
For completeness, it is available in Perl and I believe Perl had it
first; not completely sure though.
Okay, I never used Perl.
I don't think changing isset would be beneficial, sadly. I wish it
only checked that a variable exists and didn't do the no
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Xen wrote:
> Op Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:34:17 +0200 schreef Robert Stoll :
>
>
>> [Robert Stoll]
>>
>> I really like how ruby tackles this problem with the syntactic sugar
>> "unless" which basically is a substitute for "if( !() )".
>> Maybe we could consider to introdu
Op Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:34:17 +0200 schreef Robert Stoll :
[Robert Stoll]
I really like how ruby tackles this problem with the syntactic sugar
"unless" which basically is a substitute for "if( !() )".
Maybe we could consider to introduce it in PHP next? It is very natural
to read "unless(is_
Hey,
> -Original Message-
> From: Xen [mailto:x...@dds.nl]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:40 AM
> To: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP-DEV] not_null function
>
> Heya,
>
> I was just wondering about something.
>
> It seems way more natu
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Mats Lindh wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Kris Craig wrote:
>
>> What would be wrong with changing it from a function to a language
>> construct like isset() and empty()? If is_null() were the equivalent of
>> !isset( $var ) || $var === NULL, it would
On 4 July 2014 08:43, Kris Craig wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Stas Malyshev
> wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > > Not any that I'm aware of, and I personally have never used is_null().
> > > I share your opinion that we don't really need is_null(), but with BC
> > > in mind, I don't think it
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Kris Craig wrote:
> What would be wrong with changing it from a function to a language
> construct like isset() and empty()? If is_null() were the equivalent of
> !isset( $var ) || $var === NULL, it would make a hell of a lot more sense
> than what's there now.
>
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Stas Malyshev
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > Not any that I'm aware of, and I personally have never used is_null().
> > I share your opinion that we don't really need is_null(), but with BC
> > in mind, I don't think it would get removed.
>
> There's nothing to remove. Every
Hi!
> Not any that I'm aware of, and I personally have never used is_null().
> I share your opinion that we don't really need is_null(), but with BC
> in mind, I don't think it would get removed.
There's nothing to remove. Every type has is_* function, including null
type. If is_null() is offensi
HI,
Not any that I'm aware of, and I personally have never used is_null().
I share your opinion that we don't really need is_null(), but with BC
in mind, I don't think it would get removed.
Cheers,
Andrey.
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Kris Craig wrote:
>> $var !== null
>> ! is_null($
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