Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-09 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > On 10/07/2013 11:20 AM, Peter Cowburn wrote: > >> On 7 October 2013 11:13, Joe Watkins wrote: >> >>> >>> Morning Chaps, >>> >>> On the advice of many, I have restarted the vote, sorry for the >>> inconvenience/confusion ... >>> >> >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-09 Thread Paul Dragoonis
Hi Joe, Thanks for your hard work on anonymous classes. I voted no because I feel it's just adding more and more ways to achieve similar results and the syntax is just more sugary fluff to allow people to do things the wrong way. We've had a lot of new features in recent versions, i.e: traits, s

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-09 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
> I have voted no based on the lack of support for >> serialization/unserialization, and I think that we agreed that without >> somehow naming the class, we can't support that, and having a name would >> defeat the purpose of this feature. >> >> I'm looking forward to nested classes though. >> >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 15:55 +0100, Joe Watkins wrote: > >> The observation that even a small patch has an impact, or can have an >> impact is valid. But then to talk about adoption time turns your >> reasoning a bit circular: adoption does

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 15:55 +0100, Joe Watkins wrote: > The observation that even a small patch has an impact, or can have an > impact is valid. But then to talk about adoption time turns your > reasoning a bit circular: adoption does take time, if we want for > adoption to take place then the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > On 10/06/2013 11:29 PM, Joe Watkins wrote: >> I have opened the vote on anonymous classes, following on from >> conversations had in IRC, we have the option to postpone this until 5.7 > > The option to postpone for PHP 5.7 implies that t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Joe Watkins
On 10/07/2013 12:49 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 08:38 +0100, Joe Watkins wrote: I brought it up in IRC the other day and someone, I forget who, but recognized them at the time, said they'd rather see it in 5.7, then a few people joined in the discussion and I could

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
On 10/06/2013 11:29 PM, Joe Watkins wrote: > I have opened the vote on anonymous classes, following on from > conversations had in IRC, we have the option to postpone this until 5.7 The option to postpone for PHP 5.7 implies that there is already a deadline for PHP 5.6. Is there? -- PHP Intern

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > Oh and talking about "stable platform". Current bug count: 3891 And most of them are not in the language per se but in extensions or some totally ignored (see #65486 for what where you are in charge :). Now, ranting on IRC is all good a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 08:38 +0100, Joe Watkins wrote: > I brought it up in IRC the other day and someone, I forget who, but > recognized them at the time, said they'd rather see it in 5.7, then a > few people joined in the discussion and I couldn't really argue with > their reasoning. Whe

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Peter Cowburn
On 7 October 2013 11:13, Joe Watkins wrote: > > Morning Chaps, > > On the advice of many, I have restarted the vote, sorry for the > inconvenience/confusion ... https://wiki.php.net/rfc/anonymous_classes#voting (re-link, for the lazy) The voting options changed from choosing a version (

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Joe Watkins
On 10/07/2013 10:49 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: On 10/07/2013 10:46 AM, Nikita Popov wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: Morning Chaps, I have opened the vote on anonymous classes, following on from conversations had in IRC, we have the option to postpone this until

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Joe Watkins
On 10/07/2013 10:46 AM, Nikita Popov wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: Morning Chaps, I have opened the vote on anonymous classes, following on from conversations had in IRC, we have the option to postpone this until 5.7 ... Cheers The "Include in PHP 5.7"

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Nikita Popov
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > Morning Chaps, > > I have opened the vote on anonymous classes, following on from > conversations had in IRC, we have the option to postpone this until 5.7 ... > > Cheers > The "Include in PHP 5.7" voting option, does this mean that we

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Joe Watkins
On 10/07/2013 08:48 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: 5.6 remains an option ... I brought it up in IRC the other day and someone, I forget who, but recognized them at the time, said they'd rather see it in 5.7, then a few people joined

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > 5.6 remains an option ... > > I brought it up in IRC the other day and someone, I forget who, but > recognized them at the time, said they'd rather see it in 5.7, then a few > people joined in the discussion and I couldn't reall

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Joe Watkins
On 10/07/2013 08:09 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: hi, On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: Morning Chaps, I have opened the vote on anonymous classes, following on from conversations had in IRC, we have the option to postpone this until 5.7 ... Also I do not always follow IR

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Michael Wallner
On 7 October 2013 08:29, Joe Watkins wrote: > Morning Chaps, > > I have opened the vote on anonymous classes, following on from > conversations had in IRC, we have the option to postpone this until 5.7 ... You could have done us laziers a favor and add the link: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > Morning Chaps, > > I have opened the vote on anonymous classes, following on from > conversations had in IRC, we have the option to postpone this until 5.7 ... Also I do not always follow IRC discussions. What is the reasoning behi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-07 Thread Pierre Joye
hi! On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > Morning Chaps, > > I have opened the vote on anonymous classes, following on from > conversations had in IRC, we have the option to postpone this until 5.7 ... Can you move it to the voting phase section please? -- Pierre @pier

[PHP-DEV] Vote: Anonymous Classes

2013-10-06 Thread Joe Watkins
Morning Chaps, I have opened the vote on anonymous classes, following on from conversations had in IRC, we have the option to postpone this until 5.7 ... Cheers -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php