On 2/21/06, Steph Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One more time: labelled breaks weren't offered as an _alternative_ to goto.
> Why are you bringing this to the forum now?
Because it's a valid part of the discussion.
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Steph Fox wrote:
> > > Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
> > > > Wez Furlong wrote:
> > > > > I think not many people use it because it's difficult to use.
> > > > > Having real labels might change that.
> > > > > Personally, I'd prefer real goto, as I've stated in the past.
> > > > >
Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
> Wez Furlong wrote:
> > I think not many people use it because it's difficult to use.
> > Having real labels might change that.
> > Personally, I'd prefer real goto, as I've stated in the past.
> > Just for the record again, I'm +1 for goto, and +0.5 for labelled
> > bre
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, Lukas Smith wrote:
> Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
> > Wez Furlong wrote:
> > > I think not many people use it because it's difficult to use.
> > > Having real labels might change that.
> > > Personally, I'd prefer real goto, as I've stated in the past.
> > > Just for the record a
At 13:43 20/02/2006, Lukas Smith wrote:
Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
Wez Furlong wrote:
I think not many people use it because it's difficult to use.
Having real labels might change that.
Personally, I'd prefer real goto, as I've stated in the past.
Just for the record again, I'm +1 for goto, and
Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
Wez Furlong wrote:
I think not many people use it because it's difficult to use.
Having real labels might change that.
Personally, I'd prefer real goto, as I've stated in the past.
Just for the record again, I'm +1 for goto, and +0.5 for labelled
breaks only if we've to
Wez Furlong wrote:
I think not many people use it because it's difficult to use.
Having real labels might change that.
Personally, I'd prefer real goto, as I've stated in the past.
Just for the record again, I'm +1 for goto, and +0.5 for labelled
breaks only if we've totally given up on goto.
F
Derick Rethans wrote:
I will use it. << that good enough? :) But seriously, I have quite a few
cases where I would use it if it was available.
same here ... i tried to avoid the current "break n;" where ever
possible as it is easy to run into a maintainance nightmare with
it (renumbering! this
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> As I said, the syntax is quite elegant and the patch isn't too bad either.
> However, I do suggest we only add it if people are really convinced that it'll
> be used.
I will use it. << that good enough? :) But seriously, I have quite a few
cases where I
quot;Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "internals"
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks
I think not many people use it because it's difficult to use.
Having real labels might change that.
Personally, I'd prefer real goto,
a fairly bad idea
> >- I appear to be in the minority on that issue. But I don't see any
> >problem with introducing labels, I just see it as a more
> >user-friendly way of allowing nested breaks.
> >
> >Am I very wrong?
> >
> >
> >- Origin
very much. That's because people like me think it's
> >scary :) and that's _exactly_ what I was trying to say.
> >
> >- Original Message - From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
#x27;s _exactly_ what I was trying to say.
> >
> >- Original Message - From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "internals"
> >Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:48 AM
> >Subject: Re: [PH
ndi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "internals"
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks
Argh, re-read my first email. I gave my reasoning there...
At 03:11 PM 2/18/2006, Steph Fox wro
In a previous email Steph Fox writes:
could you please re-visit it, evaluate it, discuss it (as opposed
to talking about GOTO, which is unrelated)
Then in this email Steph Fox writes:
nb I think implementing goto/equivalent itself is a fairly bad idea
Says the mouth to the foot, "Pleased t
: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "internals"
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks
I'll avoid re-iterating all of the comments I've said back in December and
simply summarize by saying -1.
Ilia
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we have before us a patch that could do that.
I'm failing to understand why it's problematic to use it.
- Original Message - From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "internals"
Sent: Sunday, February
ic to use it.
- Original Message -
From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "internals"
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks
Yeah but my point was that even
In a previous email Steph Fox writes:
>
> could you please re-visit it, evaluate it, discuss it (as opposed
> to talking about GOTO, which is unrelated)
Then in this email Steph Fox writes:
>
> nb I think implementing goto/equivalent itself is a fairly bad idea
Says the mouth to the foot, "Please
I don't
see any problem with introducing labels, I just see it as a more
user-friendly way of allowing nested breaks.
Am I very wrong?
- Original Message - From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "intern
quot;internals"
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks
It's just something which to begin with isn't used that much.
Grep'ed phpweb/ for it and found 0 occurrences of break n; and I believe
the people developing it would be the ones
of allowing nested breaks.
Am I very wrong?
- Original Message - From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "internals"
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks
I think that
ruary 19, 2006 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks
This one time, at band camp, "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Seems to be 3rd wheel
> Also steph, I cannot mail you @zend.com, I get user unknown error
Everyone else's mail comes through OK, so
This one time, at band camp, "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Seems to be 3rd wheel
> > Also steph, I cannot mail you @zend.com, I get user unknown error
>
> Everyone else's mail comes through OK, so I think that was probably a
> temporary issue.
>
> No idea what '3rd wheel' means...
user-friendly way of allowing
nested breaks.
Am I very wrong?
- Original Message -
From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "internals"
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV]
Seems to be 3rd wheel
Also steph, I cannot mail you @zend.com, I get user unknown error
Everyone else's mail comes through OK, so I think that was probably a
temporary issue.
No idea what '3rd wheel' means...
- Steph
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This one time, at band camp, "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Given that practically everyone who survived the preceding GOTO discussion
> seemed to think it was a good idea at the time, could you please re-visit
> it, evaluate it, discuss it (as opposed to talking about GOTO, which is
I think that in 1997 when break/continue n where implemented it would
have been a nice idea, but at this stage except for being more
elegant than break/continue n it doesn't truly add anything
substantial to PHP (and as you already mentioned it's orthogonal to
the goto discussion). I think havi
I'll avoid re-iterating all of the comments I've said back in December
and simply summarize by saying -1.
Ilia
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Guys and guyess,
Sara and Dmitry's patch to introduce labelled breaks was discussed on
internals@ ever-so-briefly at the beginning of December, but there was never
any decision made over it.
Given that practically everyone who survived the preceding GOTO discussion
seemed to think it was a g
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