Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Pierre wrote: > Please come in with a plan and respect it, if for some reasons you > cannot respect it, inform us early enough so we can actually do the > jobs. http://news.php.net/php.qa/26819 Derick -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-20 Thread Pierre
On 7/20/06, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Pierre wrote: > Please come in with a plan and respect it, if for some reasons you > cannot respect it, inform us early enough so we can actually do the > jobs. http://news.php.net/php.qa/26819 Ok, I don't call that a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-20 Thread Pierre
On 7/20/06, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Edin Kadribasic wrote: > So who is the RM? Me, is there anything? Everything is fine in the best wold *G* (rethoric) besides there was only one feedback on the RC from the primairy testers I guess there are no proble

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-20 Thread Edin Kadribasic
Derick Rethans wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Edin Kadribasic wrote: > > >> So who is the RM? >> > > Me, is there anything? besides there was only one feedback on the RC > from the primairy testers I guess there are no problems. So a release > next week seems like the way to go now. >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Edin Kadribasic wrote: > So who is the RM? Me, is there anything? besides there was only one feedback on the RC from the primairy testers I guess there are no problems. So a release next week seems like the way to go now. regards, Derick -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime De

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-20 Thread Edin Kadribasic
So who is the RM? Edin -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Pierre wrote: > On 7/19/06, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Marcus Boerger wrote: > > > > > well i know you d a lot and had to slow down and have been on vacation. > > > Yet the vast majority is still using php 4 and we are indeed facing a >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Pierre
On 7/19/06, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Marcus Boerger wrote: > well i know you d a lot and had to slow down and have been on vacation. > Yet the vast majority is still using php 4 and we are indeed facing a > lof of security issues and don't do our reputation

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Marcus Boerger wrote: > well i know you d a lot and had to slow down and have been on vacation. > Yet the vast majority is still using php 4 and we are indeed facing a > lof of security issues and don't do our reputation good if keep taking > long times between mini releases.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Pierre
On 7/19/06, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Pierre wrote: > On 7/19/06, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Marcus Boerger wrote: > > > > > well i know you d a lot and had to slow down and have been on vacation. > > > Yet the vast maj

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > While I'd love 4.4.3 to be the last release in the 4.X series, I suspect there > would be at least 1 and probably 2 releases after it. Yeah, it will continue until there is no need anymore. Derick -- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl | http:/

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello all, actually i should count better, Ilia does 5.2 so the next open RM would be for 5.3. And since we are heading towards RC phase of 5.2 it is anyway time to look for an RM of upcoming 5.3. best regards marcus Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 11:52:36 PM, you wrote: > Hello Derick, > well i kn

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Edin Kadribasic
Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: On 18-Jul-06, at 5:42 PM, Edin Kadribasic wrote: Which forum you think should be used for evaluating/selecting a Release Master? As far as I know people have always volunteered for this role, I don't recall times we had excess of candidates for the position (I w

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
On 18-Jul-06, at 5:42 PM, Edin Kadribasic wrote: Which forum you think should be used for evaluating/selecting a Release Master? As far as I know people have always volunteered for this role, I don't recall times we had excess of candidates for the position (I wonder why ;-)). Ultimately

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
While I'd love 4.4.3 to be the last release in the 4.X series, I suspect there would be at least 1 and probably 2 releases after it. On 18-Jul-06, at 5:54 PM, Marco wrote: Sorry to barge in here with my opinions but isnt this discussion a little mute? How many more PHP 4 releases are you

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Marco
Sorry to barge in here with my opinions but isnt this discussion a little mute? How many more PHP 4 releases are you expecting? Surely 4.4.3 should be the last? (Baring any serious security flaws) IMO bug fixes should be reserved for PHP 5.x releases only. Regards Marco

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Derick, well i know you d a lot and had to slow down and have been on vacation. Yet the vast majority is still using php 4 and we are indeed facing a lof of security issues and don't do our reputation good if keep taking long times between mini releases. If now Pierre thinks he can do faster

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Edin Kadribasic
John Coggeshall wrote: On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 22:41 +0200, Pierre wrote: Yes, and in my book, my team collegues answer mails, don't ignore users question and inform the rest of the team of their plans. If you read the archives you will see that none of these points has been fullfilled in the pas

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread John Coggeshall
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 22:41 +0200, Pierre wrote: > Yes, and in my book, my team collegues answer mails, don't ignore > users question and inform the rest of the team of their plans. If you > read the archives you will see that none of these points has been > fullfilled in the past 5 months. Not to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Pierre wrote: Welcome back, good to see that you are still pollite. I'm like a tiger, can't get rid of my stripes. :) (bare with me, last 6 weeks in duty has been hell) p.s. Team work. That's how it should work, shouldn't it? Yes, and in my book, my team colleg

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Pierre
Hello, On 7/18/06, Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Pierre wrote: > On 7/18/06, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Andrei Zmievski wrote: >> >> > Do you have time/inclination to be RM for 4.4? If not, let Pierre do it. >> >> Sure, why

RE: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
gt; To: Andrei Zmievski > Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > > > Do you have time/inclination to be RM for 4.4? If not, let > Pierre do it. > > Sure, why wou

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Pierre wrote: On 7/18/06, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > Do you have time/inclination to be RM for 4.4? If not, let Pierre do it. Sure, why wouldn't I? I did an RC before my holiday and soon it's time for a release.

RE: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Andi Gutmans
to let others assume responsibility too. After Pierre runs a few, it should go to someone else... Andi > -Original Message- > From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:56 AM > To: Andrei Zmievski > Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List > Subj

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > Go for it. Que? Derick -- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl | http://ez.no | http://xdebug.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Pierre
On 7/18/06, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > Do you have time/inclination to be RM for 4.4? If not, let Pierre do it. Sure, why wouldn't I? I did an RC before my holiday and soon it's time for a release... can't do releases in some remote v

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > Do you have time/inclination to be RM for 4.4? If not, let Pierre do it. Sure, why wouldn't I? I did an RC before my holiday and soon it's time for a release... can't do releases in some remote village on Iceland now can I? Derick -- Derick Retha

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Andrei Zmievski
Do you have time/inclination to be RM for 4.4? If not, let Pierre do it. On Jul 18, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Andrei Zmievski wrote: Go for it. Que? Derick -- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl | http://ez.no | http://xdebug.org -- PHP Internals -

Re: [PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Andrei Zmievski
Go for it. On Jul 18, 2006, at 6:32 AM, Pierre wrote: Hello, We need a PHP 4 release. We need it now and we will need more and regular releases in the near future. It is clear that the current RM is not able to do his job in time and in coordination with the other developers. See the numerous

[PHP-DEV] Stepping in as RM for our PHP 4 branche

2006-07-18 Thread Pierre
Hello, We need a PHP 4 release. We need it now and we will need more and regular releases in the near future. It is clear that the current RM is not able to do his job in time and in coordination with the other developers. See the numerous requests about php4 releases or informations, they are al