Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Language Specification

2014-07-24 Thread Sara Golemon
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Is it also possible to pub description of how to render it on > wiki.php.net so that if someone prepares a big patch they'd be able to > test they didn't mess up before committing? > The repo layout he's working on includes a tools/ director

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Language Specification

2014-07-24 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > Progress is being made on getting it all into a collaborative format. > Our documentation guy is currently favoring markdown as an initial > format which is able to express everything currently in the spec, and > he's planning to build some rendering scripts that'll be able to > produce oth

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Language Specification

2014-07-24 Thread Sara Golemon
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > Just announced something at OSCON that's probably going to get a lot > of folks talking and making assumptions, so before things get out of > hand, I want to provide some context. > Progress is being made on getting it all into a collaborativ

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Language Specification

2014-07-23 Thread Andrea Faulds
On 23 Jul 2014, at 19:59, Rowan Collins wrote: > On the flip side, there is definitely value in representatives from other > implementations having a voice in changes that affect them, but that could > just mean ensuring that members of those projects are involved within the > current framewo

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Language Specification

2014-07-23 Thread Rowan Collins
Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote (on 23/07/2014): My idea was to constitute a **PHP Consortium** (yes, the name is classy but it reflects the reality), responsible to maintain and edit the PHP Specification. With what members? Members from the PHP Group (maintainers of php-src), from Facebook (maintai

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Language Specification

2014-07-23 Thread Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa
Hello Sara, First, thank you for the hard work. I have started to work on it few days ago as suggested in [1]. You have been faster than me ;-). Good job! On 23/07/2014 00:22, Sara Golemon wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: This document is meant for PHP, and PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Language Specification

2014-07-23 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
On 07/23/2014 12:25 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote: Myself I think it’d be best if the PHP Group runs it. And who exactly is the PHP Group? Most of the people listed in the credits as "The PHP Group" have not contributed in years. I agree, though, that the PHP project should own the language spec

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Language Specification

2014-07-22 Thread Andrea Faulds
On 22 Jul 2014, at 23:22, Sara Golemon wrote: > We're happy to setup the framework for curating that document > (probably as a github project), but don't want to be all controlling > with it, so if the PHP Group as an organization wants to own it and > manage updates to it over time, all the bet

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Language Specification

2014-07-22 Thread Sara Golemon
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > This document is meant for PHP, and PHP should be the steward of it > going forward, so we (as in PHP) should start looking at good ways to > keep it up to date and revise it over time. > Some folks in IRC asked for clarification of this poin