Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Class visibility in namespaces

2008-10-30 Thread Steph Fox
But the longer you wait, the more you're likely to run into implementation problems. I think what you meant to say was, 'the longer you wait, the more likely you foresee the implementation problems'. I don't know how many users you have. I'm not going to pretend I know how many users PHP has

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Class visibility in namespaces

2008-10-30 Thread Franck Jasper
>It's a bit ironic that you underestimate PHP's devs with that sort of >assumption, don't you think? I do not underestimate anyone. I just meant that those who will find class visibility "complex" may not use namespaces at all. But those who write a full OO code may want full OO features. Not OO t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Class visibility in namespaces

2008-10-30 Thread Steph Fox
Hi Franck, we agreed long ago on a very easy scheme, there shall only be is-a and public classes. Do you really think it makes the scheme "easier" to allow for public classes only? Well, yes, actually. Class visibility is a common OO concept, that improves the encapsulation of the code,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Class visibility in namespaces

2008-10-30 Thread Josh Davis
2008/10/30 Franck Jasper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > A recurrent scheme, on internals, is to underestimate the PHP developer's > skills > and needs. > And no namespaces were added to the language by that time, because it was > probably considered that a "PHP developer" would never need such a thing...

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Class visibility in namespaces

2008-10-30 Thread Franck Jasper
>Hello Ron, > > we agreed long ago on a very easy scheme, there shall only be is-a and >public classes. Do you really think it makes the scheme "easier" to allow for public classes only? Class visibility is a common OO concept, that improves the encapsulation of the code, and which, I'm afraid of