Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-07 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > Being completely fair, doesn't this actually make HackLang a great > test-bed for PHP features? If they implement something, and people I'm not sure how it can be a testbed for *PHP* features, if they develop them with next to no input from PHP community. At least as far as I know, maybe I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-07 Thread Pavel Kouřil
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Marco Pivetta wrote: > > The same usually applies to ~, {, }, [ and ]. > I personally stopped buying non-en_US keyboards and that's it. > Basically, if you code you kinda want to use en_US layout anyway (or dvorak > if you had too much free time). > I realize that t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-07 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hi Anthony, Anthony Ferrara wrote: Being completely fair, doesn't this actually make HackLang a great test-bed for PHP features? If they implement something, and people hate it/it sucks, boom. But if people love it, it's a no brainer for us to "steal". I don't think we should blindly accept an

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-07 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hi Marco, Marco Pivetta wrote: On 7 September 2015 at 06:33, Pavel Kouřil wrote: Also, I realized it's definitely harder to write ~ than =. On my keyboard layout (Czech Qwerty) I have to do "right alt + shift + (key above Tab)". I'm not sure how it is with other non-US keyboard layouts, but i

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-07 Thread Rowan Collins
Anthony Ferrara wrote on 07/09/2015 11:23: Being completely fair, doesn't this actually make HackLang a great test-bed for PHP features? If they implement something, and people hate it/it sucks, boom. But if people love it, it's a no brainer for us to "steal". I don't think we should blindly acc

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-07 Thread Anthony Ferrara
Rowan On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Rowan Collins wrote: > Andrea Faulds wrote on 06/09/2015 22:54: >> >> Also, it would be nice if PHP and Hack don't diverge when implementing the >> same features, unless there's a particularly good reason... it's not very >> kind to people who use both langu

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-07 Thread Rowan Collins
Andrea Faulds wrote on 06/09/2015 22:54: Also, it would be nice if PHP and Hack don't diverge when implementing the same features, unless there's a particularly good reason... it's not very kind to people who use both languages. While I agree with the sentiment of them not diverging, the probl

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-06 Thread Marco Pivetta
On 7 September 2015 at 06:33, Pavel Kouřil wrote: > Hello, > > these are all good points. > > Also, I realized it's definitely harder to write ~ than =. On my > keyboard layout (Czech Qwerty) I have to do "right alt + shift + (key > above Tab)". I'm not sure how it is with other non-US keyboard >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-06 Thread Pavel Kouřil
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi Bob, > > This has probably already come up, but I'd like to weigh in on the symbol > choice. > > On the subject of syntax, ~> (let's call it the squiggle arrow) seems like a > very poor choice compared to ==> (let's call it Hack's arrow).

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-06 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hi Bob, This has probably already come up, but I'd like to weigh in on the symbol choice. On the subject of syntax, ~> (let's call it the squiggle arrow) seems like a very poor choice compared to ==> (let's call it Hack's arrow). I think it's been mentioned that ==>, Hack's arrow, was thoug

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-02 Thread Rowan Collins
On 02/09/2015 20:44, Tom Worster wrote: In other words, ~> will end my career. Thanks :P I know this line is just hyperbole, but it does rather sum up the tone of the rest of your e-mail. I'm honestly not sure how you expect anyone to respond. Scrolling further down, my eye lit on the last

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures

2015-09-02 Thread Tom Worster
I'm 100% with Anthony Ferrara and Tony Marston on this. Another grumpy old curmudgeon (in addition to myself, I mean, not those two) describes four categories of bad stylists: 1. Under educated 2. Old school 3. Thrill seeker 4. Exhibitionist The first two are pretty clear, I think. The Thrill se