Re: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-27 Thread Pierre
On 1/27/07, Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Btw, for people who truly need the Unicode support I actually do think we might want to consider requiring them to fetch the input variables through a new API and/or object. I don't think we need to make it seamless if the "default" behavior w

Re: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-27 Thread Pierre
Hi Andi, On 1/27/07, Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Sara, I don't feel to great with this patch. It kind of feels like twisting the language implementation around for some very specific problem which probably shouldn't be fixed at this level. Andrei says performance of Unicode isn'

Re: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-27 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Jan 27, 2007, at 9:15 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote: Hi Sara, I don't feel to great with this patch. It kind of feels like twisting the language implementation around for some very specific problem which probably shouldn't be fixed at this level. Andrei says performance of Unicode isn't great so

RE: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-27 Thread Andi Gutmans
ing) isn't good enough... Andi > -Original Message- > From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:15 AM > To: 'Sara Golemon'; 'internals@lists.php.net'; 'Andrei > Zmievski'; 'Dmitry Stogov'

RE: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-27 Thread Andi Gutmans
). Andi > -Original Message- > From: Sara Golemon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:02 AM > To: internals@lists.php.net; Andrei Zmievski; Andi Gutmans; > Dmitry Stogov > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-24 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Sara wrote: > I've produced a couple of major lightbulb moments in people with this explanation, but it all stems from introducing the concept of an object's handle rather than saying objects are reference by default. i usually got these "aha!" events when using inodes and hard links as metaphe

RE: [PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-24 Thread Ford, Mike
> -Original Message- > From: Sara Golemon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 January 2007 19:02 > * - Sidenote: I refuse to call object behavior "reference by > default", > I've had too many people notice that it's not actually true Hear, hear. My favourite terminology here (and I'

[PHP-DEV] Autoglobal CVs without silence -- Summary

2007-01-23 Thread Sara Golemon
>> OK. Now your patch will work, but I would like to >> think about more elegant solution. >> The problem that I am busy with other work. >> Could you please wait a week and then commit it if >> I won't return (on the next Tuesday). >> > Argh. Can we please accelerate this somehow? > This patch is