On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Fleshgrinder wrote:
> On 6/1/2016 12:48 PM, Marco Pivetta wrote:
>> I also agree with Remi on naming: let's avoid calling the extension
>> `libsodium`.
> On 6/1/2016 12:48 PM, Marco Pivetta wrote:
>> 1. is there a particular reason why abbreviations are used? For
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Marco Pivetta wrote:
> In general, improving the type system provides a much more interesting and
> practical playground for any kind of tool that would rely on static
> introspection: IDEs, reflectors, code generators, code inliners,
So, tooling that relies upon
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Peter Lind wrote:
> On 21 January 2016 at 21:53, Ronald Chmara wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Flyingmana
>> wrote:
>> > Is there any way to abuse the taking over of an withdrawn RFC?
Snip_>
>> An RFC being used prim
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Flyingmana wrote:
> An RFC could still be valuable for the project, even if the original
> author leaved, so taking it over should be possible. And it should not
> be painful in any way.
> Would we need some rules in case multiple people want to take it over,
> or
I note that after much hue and cry, and many arguments, I still do not
know what color this bikeshed will be.
I feel I have been informed of the many examples of problems with
colors, cultural relevance of specific hues, details of paint
techniques, anecdotes of past experiences with varying color
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
> On 10/12/15 11:02, Björn Larsson wrote:
> > Just noticed that Smarty team is working on a 3.1.28 relase that plans
> > to be PHP 7 compliant, see: https://github.com/smarty-php/smarty
> The version I'm running is not giving any errors, simila
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Craig Francis
wrote:
> On 30 Jul 2015, at 16:26, Ronald Chmara wrote:
> > Perhaps I have missed something in this discussion
> I think you have... my email from a couple of weeks ago was ignored... so
> I replied to Matt's suggestion (w
Perhaps I have missed something in this discussion where such a change to
PHP does not break every single application that is supposed to pass raw,
user submitted, SQL *without* getting prepared/nerfed, or warned about, by
intentional application design.
If we're just limiting the nerfing for subm
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
> Hi,
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Ronald Chmara wrote:
>
>> When you have a group of front-end termination points in a pool, proxying
>> requests off to hundreds of machines for thousands of applications, tying a
When you have a group of front-end termination points in a pool, proxying
requests off to hundreds of machines for thousands of applications, tying a
session to any IP is a headache. IMO, sessions are supposed to be tied to
users, not any given inbound IP that can, and may, jump between different
r
Same from here.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Thomas Hruska wrote:
> I'm getting a HTTP 500 Internal Server Error on the php.net homepage (
> http://www.php.net/) from my local machine and a computer in a completely
> different state on a different network.
>
> --
> Thomas Hruska
> CubicleSof
Here I am, ten years later, and the same issue is being rehashed just as it
was when it was brought up ten years ago.
Over those ten years, things have slowly gotten better, but the underlying
issue remains the same. PHP is glue. PHP has not taken the path of
re-naming everything to conform to a n
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Kris Craig wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Thomas Hruska wrote:
>> On 11/12/2012 9:22 AM, Derick Rethans wrote:
>> Why deprecate? Just because you like PDO doesn't mean everyone else will
>> like it. Just because mysql_query() tends to create security
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Johannes Schlüter
wrote:
> We, from the MySQL Connector Team at Oracle, add new features to mysqli (and
> eventually PDO) only, though, for quite some time already. Bugs in ext/mysql
> are being fixed in a best effort way and we plan to do this as long as
> req
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Arvids Godjuks
wrote:
> It took me like 10 minutes of "Search & Replace" in my IDE to make a switch
> to mysqli and a few more hours to validate that everything is ok and catch
> places where search & replace failed. The amount of work is overestimated,
> especiall
Your CompSci education (or lack thereof) has failed you.
Use the source.
Floats behave differently under different conditions.
-Ronabop
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Standard hazing:
1. Tests?
2. Docs?
Annoying if needed whining:
I think "array_pick" and "array_rand" are precisely the kind of
function naming that makes PHP infamous. I would suggest that
array_rand_key() and array_rand_value(), or array_rand() with an
argument to default to key (for BC).
Speed
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Kris Craig wrote:
> I get that the first two acronyms are POOP and SHIT; however, the third one,
> HARAH, is throwing me off. Is that a fecal reference in some other language
> or something?
http://www.youswear.com/index.asp?language=Hebrew
I thought about maki
With PHP 6, lets start with a:
Pure
Object
Oriented
PHP
...idea, and extend it out, so we can have a:
Structured
Heuristic
Idealistic
Taxonomy
..so we reduce user confusion, and eliminate the vast majority of our
userbase, (thus cutting down on bug reports, of course) so we can
have a:
Heuristic
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Johannes Schlüter
wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 14:34 +0200, Gustavo Lopes wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:17:04 +0200, Paul Dragoonis
>> wrote:
>> > I attempted to get (and failed) some attention on my request that I
>> > posted to php-webmaster mailing list,
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:07 AM, lijiu zhang wrote:
> Hi everyone:
>
> I am doing a study report about PHP, could anyone tell PHP governance? Such
> as, who is project manager, package manager, how php make a decision? And
> finance support situation?
This is an interesting question. I hope you
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:42 PM, wrote:
> Stas:
>
> Just b/c there are rarely any women at all that participate on this list,
> could we at list maintain a facade of gender neutrality?
One of my favorite PHP dev folks is Sara Golemon. A fucking rock star.
Female, I believe. I think she might be
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Adir Kuhn wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> today I read this post, I think that some points are valid, follow the link
> for
> you guys
"Ideally, don’t tell me anything!"
That's doable. No point trying to talk to a ranter.
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On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Adam Harvey wrote:
> On 27 March 2012 09:55, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
>> http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php
>>
>> At the bottom of this page, http://www.ezmlm.org/ is refereed.
>> However, it seems this domain is dead.
>
> It looks like the domain has expired. Alon
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> that's totally off topic... but we have no idea yet when will be php
> 6, or whatsoever.
> However next is in around a year :)
"PHPME", "PHPXP", "PHP Feisty Foxbat", "PHP#"
Let's name this bike shed*!
-Ronabop
*http://en.wikipedia.org/w
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, John Crenshaw wrote:
> No, you've misunderstood. The average new not-really-a-developer has no
> concept of security. Every SQL query they write is vulnerable to injection.
> Every echo exposes their site to XSS vulnerabilities. Every form is
> vulnerable to CSRF
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
> On 2/24/12 4:48 PM, Ronald Chmara wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Larry Garfield
>>> Except that per HTTP, GET and POST are completely different operations.
>>> One
>>> is idempotent
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
>> To me, it's just a request for some content, and in a REST API that's
>> read-only, I just don't care if the consumer sends their request as
>> GET or POST. I'll cheerfully give them what they wanted.
> Except that per HTTP, GET and POST a
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Florian Anderiasch wrote:
>
>> Hey there,
>> I just noticed some inconsistencies in svn usernames used in
>> SVNROOT/global_avail.
>>
>> After some shell magic involving sed,grep and diff these names don't mat
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Anthony Ferrara wrote:
>> However, and it is what we approved, OSS project leads have a voice,
>> today and here. And they are not random people, they know sometimes
>> much better than us what should be added to the core (be language, or
>> functions in an extensi
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> Hi.
>
> As it was brought up recently that who can vote, and how are the community
> representatives granted with voting rights, I created an RFC draft for
> defining that-
> Please feel free to discuss and extend it.
> https://wiki.php.net/r
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Alexander Kitaev wrote:
> Hello David,
> Snip_>
> You may download SubGit at http://subgit.com/ and contact us at
> supp...@subgit.com if you have further questions.
> Thanks!
"SubGit is a closed source software. You may use this version of it for free."
From:
ht
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:51 PM, a...@akbkhome.com wrote:
> BTW. we could really do with a searchable archive of php.dev + internals...
> - It's pretty difficult to find out if this was ever discussed before..
http://marc.info/?l=php-internals
marc has a ton of the PHP lists. (Is this not what y
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
> A previous poster claimed that a DVCS would lead to confusion as to what the
> canonical repository was. That is, in my experience, a common fear of
> someone who has not used a DVCS in production.
Disclaimer: I haven't committed to PHP in
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
>> Maybe having experience with Java is exactly the reason why some people are
>> reluctant to make PHP more like Java... Just saying ;)
> then those would have informed objections, don't
Sorry:
$code > $complaints;
2010/8/4 Ronald Chmara :
> $code < $complaints;
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
>> Maybe this is just lost in the weekend's email swarm.
>> At least I hope this is the reason for the silence.
>>
>>
$code < $complaints;
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> Maybe this is just lost in the weekend's email swarm.
> At least I hope this is the reason for the silence.
>
> Tyrael
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:11 PM, 高春辉 wrote:
>> nobody to care this change? :(
>>
>> -邮件原件-
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> hi,
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>> Ah, Jani went a little crazy today in his typical style to force a
>> decision. The real decision is not whether to have a version 5.4 or
>> not
Jani is passionate, and that's
Religious programming is the problem.
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Gwynne Raskind wrote:
> On Jan 19, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Alain Williams wrote:
$eep->oop()->ork()->ah()->ah();
the newcomer will have to spend significant time rummaging around the
source code to figure out wha
"WORKSFORME"
Details?
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Edward Z. Yang wrote:
> I don't know if this is the right list to report to, but
> bugs.php.net is currently non-functional.
>
> Cheers,
> Edward
>
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On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Lothar Scholz
wrote:
> If they are doing bad - yes i do. I have to say i give a fuck about
> volunteers - most of them should go to hell because most of them are
> worse to projects and they should/would go better without them and
> with a strict core team. If you
On Feb 26, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Greg Beaver wrote:
Pierre Joye wrote:
Hi,
What's about adding what screan (http://pecl.php.net/scream) to the
standard PHP? Everyone needs it and it should be possible to do that
without having to install an extension.
Comments/objections?
If it can be done easily an
On Feb 26, 2009, at 5:58 AM, Rodrigo Saboya wrote:
Ronald, I think you are overreacting a little bit. It may be that
proper written could would get no benefit from this patch since it
would not load unneeded code and this patch ends up speeding up
environments where such "correct" loading is
On Feb 21, 2009, at 10:55 PM, shire wrote:
Hi Ronald,
Ronald Chmara wrote:
Wait... so if I understand this right, let's envision a code base
where,
per some random page load, 70 functions are actually called, but, oh,
7,000, or even 700,000, are being included for whatever reason?
The
On Feb 21, 2009, at 4:10 PM, shire wrote:
I've just checked into APC CVS preliminary support for Lazy Loading
classes and functions. This means that rather than copying
function entries into EG(function_table) and EG(class_table) when
an include happen it will mark the functions/classes as
On Jan 12, 2009, at 2:58 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
2009/1/12 Antony Dovgal :
On 12.01.2009 13:38, Richard Quadling wrote:
Can someone please commit these typo fixes.
Committed, thanks a lot.
Just standing on the shoulders ...
Welcome to the pyramid (we've gotten pretty tall, now). :)
-Bo
The server that was http://lu2.php.net had some issues, that have
hopefully been fixed now... what are the contact points for getting it
back into the listed mirror pool?
-Bop
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On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:44 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
On a sidenote, I would suggest to take a look at the djbdns library,
which is available on almost all platform and seems to be much cleaner
than bind(8|9): http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/dns.html
Technical issue: While available, it is not installed (by d
On Nov 10, 2008, at 5:24 PM, shire wrote:
It sounds like this would only work if the array contents where
static though, as you're mapping a constant string to the
contents of the hash (or did I misunderstand and you'd be
mapping string const. values to hash IDs?).
My point is, replaci
On Nov 6, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Nate Abele wrote:
I was shocked and horrified that that ridiculous "remove-the-$"
post actually turned into a legitimate discussion. I mean, seriously?
No, not seriously.
It's an old internet joke, a shibboleth among programmers, not unlike
"GOTO considered h
On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Hannes Magnusson schrieb:
Speaking of "QA people", how about crediting those who are actually
working on QA and removing the names who haven't been around for
years
(I don't even recognized most of those names)?
How do you recommend
On Nov 1, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
http://www.php.net/reST/php-src/README.MAILINGLIST_RULES
Maybe it needs to be cut down (or just provide the key points at
the top) and automatically appended to all emails (including the
welcome email) .
Crontab a monthly mailing of t
On Oct 31, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Stefan Walk wrote:
There are cases where one user replied to
multiple mails in a short time without fighting, just explaining and
discussiong, and you don't want to block that - as well as it
wouldn't stop
random people from suggesting dropping the $ from variable
On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:53 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
*A Simpler Solution*
Force userland / general naming conventions in PHP.
# namespaces are always lowercase
# functions are always lowercase
# classes are always CamelCaps with initial uppercase letter enforced
thus:
//this is always the functi
On Sep 9, 2008, at 6:22 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
if we cannot
We already have this serious flaw in our design. If we use "new Foo
()", and it's definition not included, it resolves differently
(namely, to fatal error) than if we had included the definition.
Also, with inheritanc
On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 04:40 +0200, Lupus Michaelis wrote:
Richard Quadling a écrit :
Can someone point me to where or how PHP DOESN'T close persistent
connections
Maybe because it is... persistent ?
He's probably trying to learn how
On Jan 13, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
Voting to achieve what?
Fair decisions in a simpler, effective and right manner (and not
discutable, ideally).
I do not consider "fairness", whatever that could mean, having
anything to do with technical decisions regarding PHP,
I vote
On Dec 13, 2007, at 6:17 AM, rich gray wrote:
If this suggestion from Jani is supported then all I can say is WTF
a bunch of prima donnas you internals/core devs are ... You don't
want to listen to your users who are in most cases NOT technically
ignorant and are in the trenches using your
On Dec 5, 2007, at 12:52 AM, Robert Lemke wrote:
Hi Derick,
I also agree with your arguments - beautifying class names is not
reason enough for
introducing namespaces.
On 04.12.2007 at 23:16 Derick Rethans wrote:
4. What is wrong with simple prefixes in the first place? Both
PEAR_*,
Zend_
On Dec 3, 2007, at 10:30 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Ronald Chmara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the *actual cost and complexity* involved in implementing
(possibly many) different user-selectable memory management systems,
and what other future benefits
On Dec 3, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote:
Hi all,
Was hoping to send this off earlier but I was travelling for the past
week and had very limited email access.
As promised in the past few weeks we have spent a significant
amount of
time in reviewing the garbage collector work and tes
On Jan 27, 2007, at 8:26 AM, Mehdi Achour wrote:
Hello internals,
I've been helping with PHP documentation for 4 years now, and I
still can't help the fact that a lt of things are not
documented, that our/my way of handling the PHP documentation
update is not accurate, nor productive, n
On Dec 4, 2003, at 5:47 AM, Ronald Chmara wrote:
I'm_not_sure_why,
but_I_cannot_quickly_and_easily_figure_out_what_you_mean_to_say..
The cute dig aside, common words are quickly read based on mental
assumptions of word "shapes", and word "breaks" Letter capitalization
On Dec 3, 2003, at 1:01 PM, Jani Taskinen wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Edin Kadribasic wrote:
On Wednesday, Dec 3, 2003, at 10:12 Europe/Copenhagen, Derick Rethans
wrote:
derick Wed Dec 3 04:12:39 2003 EDT
Modified files:
/php-srcCODING_STANDARDS
Log:
- I am sure I reverted this befo
On Dec 4, 2003, at 5:24 AM, Robert Cummings wrote:
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 05:07, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
Robert Cummings wrote:
+1 for studlyCaps -- contrast IAmAndi versus nameIsAndi, the chosen
variable name makes all the difference.
-1 on that argument as now the CS dictates what names you may
On Nov 18, 2003, at 4:29 AM, Edin Kadribasic wrote:
Fixed, thanks for noticing.
Edin
On Tuesday, Nov 18, 2003, at 10:12 Europe/Copenhagen, Uwe Schindler
wrote:
Looking into the win32 snapshot logs: A lot of errors during compile
because of no disk space.
Uwe
There are scripts to warn of such thi
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 03:07 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote:
PS: or, *gasp* drop case-sensitivity. For which I'm an enormous +1. :)
Aw, and steal enormous hours from consultants like me who make mad
dollars from running grep -i ?
How cruel.
:-)
-Bop
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