t very convenient to be
able to build PHP .deb's from CVS, that's all. And I don't think it
would cause a lot of extra work for anyone.
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whatever else. It will make PHP a better product.
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n PHP CVS code? This is done with some other Debian packages,
and it helps a lot for people who want to build a package from CVS...
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But then again, for distributing binary-only applications it would
perhaps be a good idea.
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reason for this, and that reason is
that the CVS was organized in a bad, hackish way?
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mes: thanks for fixing this in the
proper way.
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od alternative to using MySQL for small sites.
+1
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ontrary to the very principles of Open Source
and Free Software (since it would make derivate works of PHP unable to
use the MySQL extension).
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> > implement but we need a consensus before doing so.
> add my +1 to the consensus.
Me too. OOP without proper use of exceptions is a poor man's choice.
+1.
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enchmark it with and
without the changes and see what you get. Easy peasy?
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s down to: the bigger the
blocks that you allocate from the system, the better your performance.
You are very welcome to show me research that shows the opposite, but I
doubt that anyone would even consider researching this since it is a
fairly accepted computer science thesis really.
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we should handle those systems, where the libc
malloc is inefficient?
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e the latter too, since we can always fall back to
> malloc.
This might actually be a very good idea, since it can likely improve
performance a lot by having a pool of zval-sized blocks (I have no idea
of how big they are). Have you thought about how to implement it in a
good way?
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pose that's the way dlmalloc works as well, and that's the problem.
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a much
higher level of control over how it allocates small blocks (which are
indeed very common in almost all computer programs).
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ule...
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portional to what?
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On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:52, Adam Dickmeiss wrote:
> cannot find the OO PHP script. Did you attach it?
Sorry. I'm obviously doing too many things at one time. Here it is,
attached to this email.
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round. It works very well
as far as I understand, but of course it is much easier to do it with
Java and C++ since they share almost all the syntax and concepts, and
they are both compiled environments... PHP is a different baby. :)
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dlers are in a class -- so
perhaps OO support in PHP should be dropped altogether. :-)
Anyone has any ideas?
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Of course, the PHP OO in ZendEngine2 is
greatly improved, but still, things like this can make experienced OO
programmers with C++ or Java background just shudder and say "it's a
toy". I don't think that's good.
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ly sometimes?
Besides, it is much a matter of asking yourself: what is most important,
being compatible with old PHP ugly-OO code or compatibility with other
OO-languages such as C++ and Java?
I know what I would answer to that question. :-)
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On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 10:53, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> At 11:35 31/03/2003, Per Lundberg wrote:
> >On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 12:59, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> > > Writing exception-driven applications is extremely discouraged.
> >What is the rationale behind this?
> (a) This is
don't really need
OOP. But PHP, or rather, the Zend Engine 2, is not limited to only web
scripting. It can be used for so much more, and that needs to be taken
into consideration when discussing these things.
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> extremely discouraged.
What is the rationale behind this?
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CLI or embed impossible.
100% agreed.
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On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 21:42, Andi Gutmans wrote:
I get your points. I think I'm gonna shut up for now and try using
ZendEngine2 a bit, to see what it's actually like in the Real World.
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n programming mistakes.
> Yes, the important problems with the OOP models have been fixed.
> I don't think we should "improve" PHP until it becomes Java.
:-)
> If that's what you want then java is a URL away.
Thank you, but I have already been down that road and I pr
is set
to "true" if the user prefers a OOP-based PHP, and "false" otherwise.
Possibly, and perhaps a better alternative, adding a new mime type
called "application/x-httpd-ohp" with file endings of .ohp, for
(puristic) object-oriented code. That might not actuall
good if it was really easy
to install the Zend engine system-wide, including the .so and .h files
and so on? I'll gladly write the patch if you want it.
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