On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:53 AM Ian Littman wrote:
> What do y'all think about getting this into PHP 8?
>
So long as the default behavior is to leave it available, I'm okay with
this. Any app
that relies on twig/twig, phpunit/phpunit, many symfony packages,
dompdf/dompdf,
etc relies on being ab
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 9:42 AM Aimeos | Norbert Sendetzky <
norb...@aimeos.com> wrote:
> Since PHP 7.1 there's the "iterable" pseudo type hint that matches
> "array" and "Traversable".
>
> PHP frameworks would profit from support of an "arrayable" pseudo type
> hint that matches "array" and all o
made me think about this, and I enjoyed it.
I will continue to look for something I can cut my teeth on as a first-time
contribution to php core.
- Ken Stanley
This got rejected for being too large???
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:05 PM Ken Stanley wrote:
> Now we’re talking. :-)
>
> This example is better indeed.
>> But here I would prefer to have the ?-> operator proposed earlier
>> (nullsafe calls).
>>
>>
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 8:54 PM Mike Schinkel wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2019, at 6:49 PM, Ken Stanley wrote:
> I would be keen to see the more expressive techniques that retain the
> succinctness of having a not-null coalescing operator.
>
>
>
> When I read your first example, I
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 6:01 PM Mark Randall wrote:
> On 24/10/2019 22:52, Ken Stanley wrote:
> > I'm more interested in having a negation operator for the null-coalescing
> > operator, especially since cognatively it should be easy to discern what
> it
> > does.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 5:31 PM Kosit Supanyo
wrote:
> Hi Bruce
>
> If I understand correctly.
>
> $_SERVER['fname'] !?? $user->setName($_SERVER['fname']);
>
>
> Will return the result of $user->setName($_SERVER['fname']) if
> $_SERVER['fname'] is set or null if not set. While:
>
> isset($_SERV
in having a negation operator for the null-coalescing
operator, especially since cognatively it should be easy to discern what it
does. I've personally not seen |>, and I'd be confused as to what it does
(e.g., is it a bitwise OR on a greater than comparison?).
Thank you! The idea of $$ is neat, but not quite what I'm trying to achieve
here. If anything, wouldn't that facilitate a different RFC?
- Ken Stanley
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 4:29 PM Andreas Hennings
wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 20:59, Ken Stanley wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:33 PM Dan Ackroyd
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 18:21, Ken Stanley wrote:
> > > >
> > &g
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:33 PM Dan Ackroyd wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 18:21, Ken Stanley wrote:
> >
> > Since PHP 7.0 brought forward the Null Coalescing Operator (??), writing
> > more succinct code for how to handle null values has been a blessing.
> But,
> &g
situation (e.g., $userId
!?? $bar->getUser($userId())). In fact, I could see this RFC complimenting
the nullsafe operator: $userId !?? $bar->getUser($userId)?->getName().
Thank you,
Ken Stanley
PS. Dan, I am going to respond to your request for a code example; I am
taking my time so that I can give you and everyone else a good example. :)
n SQL. And, as they say, naming is hard. If
`anti-coalescing-operator` does not sit well with you all, I am open to
naming suggestions.
Thank you for your time,
Ken Stanley
On Dec 11, 2007 6:13 PM, Gregory Beaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The example above shows that imported names are reset at each namespace
> declaration. There is no prohibition on this code:
>
> namespace one; {
> use Blah::A;
> // code
> }
> namespace two; {
> use Foo::A;
> // code
> }
> ?>
I understand what you mean, but I was just trying to put a real-world face
on a so-far theoretical problem. But that does raise an interesting point;
we can already use braces anywhere and everywhere, and while we could easily
wrap namespaces in anonymous braces like you describe, why not just go t
In regards to the braces or no braces question, I have a scenario that I
would like to share that could be considered similar in nature. We use a
cluster of databases where I work, and to make things easier on us, we have
a method called setSource() to switch between the clusters in our database
cl
Holy wow. That was fantastic! Not to downplay anything that Stas and the
other developers have done -- because let's face it, they've done a
fantastic job themselves -- you have definitely risen above and beyond the
call of duty and really come up with some very compelling counter-arguments.
This r
On Dec 5, 2007 3:03 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What I'm frustrated with is not questions and arguments, but the same
> misconceptions about namespaces repeated over and over after it was
> explained multiple times it is just not what namespaces are and how they
> are supp
On Dec 5, 2007 12:54 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (I don't know how to make it more clear - should I
> use blinking text, flash graphics and pictures of dancing girls/boys in
> bikinis?)
Stas, that is immature, rude, and completely uncalled for; fine, you are
frustrated wi
As a developer and member of the community, the following is my two-cents on
the subject:
On Dec 4, 2007 5:16 PM, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. As it is impossible to do "use XXX as NativeClass" we get to the
> point where we'd have to namespace new internal native classes
>
at
least be told where to go to fix their mistake?
I am only asking to this list because I would hate to submit a ticket that
is just going to be closed. :)
On Nov 23, 2007 1:09 PM, Antony Dovgal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 22.11.2007 06:12, Ken Stanley wrote:
> > I have
&
I completely agree with what you and Alexy suggest. I've since refactored my
code accordingly so that an exception would not be thrown while inside of an
exception. But, that does not answer my original question. I asked about
submitting a feature request that would simply provide more information
Hello,
I have done my best to look through both the internals archive and the bug
database, however I feel that I may have missed something; hence this
e-mail. I am working on a project that uses set_exception_handler() so that
I can attempt to display a uniform error page, perform logging, etc, o
FWIW, I think this is a great feature. Forgive my lack of intimate knowledge
with the core and extension, but would this be possible as an extension to
PHP? i.e., xdebug modifies how certain internals of PHP work through the
zend_extension_ts ini setting.
On 10/15/07, Hans Moog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello! I've been watching this list for a little while, and I am hoping that
someone here can point me in the right direction. We, where I work, are
running PHP 5.2.3 on 10 Windows Server 2003 sp2 and IIS 6 servers. Also,
each IIS server is configured to use the IUSR_SERVERNMAE user for anonymous
a
That's right. And that's exactly why it's such a bad idea to call it
static::. It's the scope resolution operator which already makes them
static, not their name. (I'm sorry for catching you on your words ;) )
I agree that it is not the best name, just not as bad as some of the others.
:)
Tha
First of all, thank you to everybody who has responded to my (silly)
questions; you have made this subject a lot more understandable. :)
static:: seems weird because it implies otherkeyword:: is not static.
I think the point that was made from the other posters was that child:: was
way too conf
On 5/26/07, Mike Lively <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It appears that all you are suggesting that is different from what has
been discussed previously is purely syntactical. In that regard I would
have to say that while neither this:: or static:: are jaw-droppers,
child:: seems somewhar counter-int
Hi all!
I've been researching the current status of late static binding, and I came
across this mailing list with a few topics on this subject. After doing the
reading, I had a couple of questions that maybe one of the experienced
parties involved could help clear up for me. Basically, I am wonde
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